My second cousin died
She died from covid. Heart failure. No underlying health problems before. Didn't believe in the vaccine. Her choice I guess
46-50, M
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Mongoheadmonster · 46-50, M
@Wiseacre like I said to that other guy....her heart started fuckin up when the covid got crazy bad in the icu. She didn't have heart problems before covid. It's like saying the engine in my car quit because it seized up because it ran out of oil....and someone asking "well why did it quit then...no oil or seized??" .....it's the complications covid created is what can get ya
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Wiseacre Are you serious? Same logic that spread AIDS throughout southern Africa. 'They didn't die of AIDS, they died of an infection.' I spoke to young people in Lesotho who didn't think AIDS was real and it was killing people throughout their community.
1. She was diagnosed by the hospital as having Covid. 2. She was healthy before. 3. Covid causes heart failure.
What do the experts say?
How does coronavirus (COVID-19) affect the heart?
It causes an acute myocarditis and acute inflammation of the heart and it causes acute injury to the heart muscle so the heart doesn't function as well.
https://heart.bmj.com/content/107/2/113
But do tell us what you learnt on facebook. Oh, she had covid but that was like the flu. She must've been going to die from heart failure? ffs.
1. She was diagnosed by the hospital as having Covid. 2. She was healthy before. 3. Covid causes heart failure.
What do the experts say?
How does coronavirus (COVID-19) affect the heart?
It causes an acute myocarditis and acute inflammation of the heart and it causes acute injury to the heart muscle so the heart doesn't function as well.
https://heart.bmj.com/content/107/2/113
But do tell us what you learnt on facebook. Oh, she had covid but that was like the flu. She must've been going to die from heart failure? ffs.
Mongoheadmonster · 46-50, M
@Abstraction absolutely....it's pneumonia most of the time that kills them....but they wouldn't have had pneumonia to begin with
Wiseacre · F
Not everyone with covid gets myocarditis.@Abstraction
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Wiseacre That's kind of obvious isn't it?
I included that information because you made it an and/or proposition. Did she die of covid OR heart failure. So I provided evidence that it can be BOTH.
Not everyone in a car accident dies because of head trauma. Did they die of a car accident OR a head trauma? Well, both.
"Pulmonary dysfunction and septic shock were the most common causes of death in a cohort of patients hospitalized with COVID-19, according to a new study published in the Annals of the American Thoracic Society."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82862-5
I included that information because you made it an and/or proposition. Did she die of covid OR heart failure. So I provided evidence that it can be BOTH.
Not everyone in a car accident dies because of head trauma. Did they die of a car accident OR a head trauma? Well, both.
"Pulmonary dysfunction and septic shock were the most common causes of death in a cohort of patients hospitalized with COVID-19, according to a new study published in the Annals of the American Thoracic Society."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82862-5
Wiseacre · F
Yes, doctor!@Abstraction
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Wiseacre Ok, sarcasm. Is the implication that I can't know because I'm not a doctor? I hardly think so because that would be a bit silly, really. It's not difficult to refer to those who do know based on peer reviewed research and evidence.
https://www.science.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes
https://www.science.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes