My second cousin died
She died from covid. Heart failure. No underlying health problems before. Didn't believe in the vaccine. Her choice I guess
41-45, M
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Sad to hear about your loss. I lost a brother in law to the vax. Lungs full of blood clots three days after the shot. He had plans of going RVing before he got the jab. Sadly it is too often reduced to an either or. There are effective treatments available other than the vax and they are not being used in the US or Canada.
Mongoheadmonster · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 that sucks man...sorry to hear. I know of another person who's immune system is attacking itself because of the shot....basically dying.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Mongoheadmonster It is not at all uncommon. I was talking to a client who said the vax killed his uncle. He then went on to say that 6 of his family (brothers/sisters/in-laws) who were vaxed. They all came down with covid. They were really sick with it as well.
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Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Wiseacre That's kind of obvious isn't it?
I included that information because you made it an and/or proposition. Did she die of [u]covid OR heart failure. [/u] So I provided evidence that it can be BOTH.
Not everyone in a car accident dies because of head trauma. Did they die of a car accident OR a head trauma? Well, both.
"Pulmonary dysfunction and septic shock were the most common causes of death in a cohort of patients hospitalized with COVID-19, according to a new study published in the Annals of the American Thoracic Society."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82862-5
I included that information because you made it an and/or proposition. Did she die of [u]covid OR heart failure. [/u] So I provided evidence that it can be BOTH.
Not everyone in a car accident dies because of head trauma. Did they die of a car accident OR a head trauma? Well, both.
"Pulmonary dysfunction and septic shock were the most common causes of death in a cohort of patients hospitalized with COVID-19, according to a new study published in the Annals of the American Thoracic Society."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82862-5
Wiseacre · F
Yes, doctor!@Abstraction
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Wiseacre Ok, sarcasm. Is the implication that I can't know because I'm not a doctor? I hardly think so because that would be a bit silly, really. It's not difficult to refer to [u]those who do know[/u] based on peer reviewed research and evidence.
https://www.science.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes
https://www.science.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Mongoheadmonster · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone her heart was perfectly fine before....she got the covid....ended up in the icu...then her heart started going to shit while battling covid...it's not a coincidence
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Mongoheadmonster then why did you say I don’t know?
Mongoheadmonster · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone because I don't know if they've officially put heart problems on the list of potential symptoms....that's why. I just know what she went through. My "OPINION" based on her experience would be that yes, heart issues can be a symptom if covid is serious enough....but my opinion doesn't mean shit
Abstraction · 61-69, M
I'm sorry.
People make choices, sincerely, based on information or misinformation from sources they trust. Sometimes the implications of that information or misinformation really matter.
People make choices, sincerely, based on information or misinformation from sources they trust. Sometimes the implications of that information or misinformation really matter.
Mongoheadmonster · 41-45, M
@Abstraction when the hospital staff would move her, her heart would stop momentarily. Eventually it just stopped completely and that was that......I wonder if during those between times if she regretted her decision 🤔 🤷
meggie · F
Sorry to hear that. Most of us have been affected by it in some way, but a death from it is very upsetting.
PrivateHell · M
Sorry for your loss. No guarantee it would have mattered if she had been vaccinated anyway. But still a tragedy
TexChik · F
Aww! I’m so sorry . Have you had it?
TexChik · F
@Mongoheadmonster I had it . 3 day headache and sinus stuff . 3 months of not smelling or tasting anything
stratosranger · M
Sorry about that man. 🙁
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
So sorry for your loss.
Mongoheadmonster · 41-45, M
@iamonfire696 thanks
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Mongoheadmonster · 41-45, M
@RogueLoner I can see some big lawsuits pretty soon