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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire [quote]At this point, I kind of feel like we should do what Germany did, and make it illegal to promote Nazism or anything resembling it.[/quote]
The Nazis got everything they knew about being Nazis from the Americans. So, you want to ban the American Way?
The Nazis got everything they knew about being Nazis from the Americans. So, you want to ban the American Way?
TheSentinel · M
@Diotrephes Absolutely stupid comment.
Either you are too uninformed to comment on this topic, you're a troll, or else a Nazi sympathizer.
But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt, and just assume you just don't know what you are talking about..
Either you are too uninformed to comment on this topic, you're a troll, or else a Nazi sympathizer.
But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt, and just assume you just don't know what you are talking about..
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@TheSentinel [quote][removed by staff]
Either you are too uninformed to comment on this topic, [removed by staff].
But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt, and just assume you just don't know what you are talking about..[/quote]
Your comment indicates that you are ignorant about American history.
American engaged in ethnic cleansing against the indigenous people, expelling them from their ancestral lands and placing them on reservations (concentration camps) if they didn't kill them outright.
America expanded its territory by invading Spanish, Mexican, and French territories.
During the Civil War, the Union army put escaping slaves in concentration camps where tens of thousands died from starvation and diseases.
Americans came up with the idea of apartheid by enforcing racial segregation in housing, employment, education, marriage, and sundown towns. In fact, the majority of towns in some northern and western States were sundown towns.
Americans perfected the idea of eugenics, forcing countless women to have forced sterilizations and abortions. Forced sterilizations continued through at least 2010.
[b][i]Why the Nazis Loved America[/i][/b]
https://time.com/4703586/nazis-america-race-law/
[b][i]What America Taught the Nazis[/i][/b]
In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racism—the United States
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/
[b][i]How American Racism Influenced Hitler[/i][/b]
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler
[b][i]How the Nazis Were Inspired by Jim Crow[/i][/b]
To craft legal discrimination, the Third Reich studied the United States.
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-were-inspired-by-jim-crow
[b][i]Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law[/i][/b]
How American race law provided a blueprint for Nazi Germany
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model
[b][i]Why the Nazis studied American race laws for inspiration[/i][/b]
https://aeon.co/ideas/why-the-nazis-studied-american-race-laws-for-inspiration
So, take some time to read the articles. They are not fake news. The Nazis were much nicer than the Americans because they did reject some of the more extreme racist laws and practices that were common in America because they thought that they were too harsh. For example, the Nazis didn't engage in lynchings, which was a favorite White American hobby.
"As Whitman shows, the Nuremberg Laws were crafted in an atmosphere of considerable attention to the precedents American race laws had to offer. German praise for American practices, already found in Hitler’s Mein Kampf, was continuous throughout the early 1930s, and the most radical Nazi lawyers were eager advocates of the use of American models. But while Jim Crow segregation was one aspect of American law that appealed to Nazi radicals, it was not the most consequential one. Rather, both American citizenship and antimiscegenation laws proved directly relevant to the two principal Nuremberg Laws—the Citizenship Law and the Blood Law. [c=BF0000][b][i]Whitman looks at the ultimate, ugly irony that when Nazis rejected American practices, it was sometimes not because they found them too enlightened, but too harsh."[/i][/b][/c]
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model
Either you are too uninformed to comment on this topic, [removed by staff].
But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt, and just assume you just don't know what you are talking about..[/quote]
Your comment indicates that you are ignorant about American history.
American engaged in ethnic cleansing against the indigenous people, expelling them from their ancestral lands and placing them on reservations (concentration camps) if they didn't kill them outright.
America expanded its territory by invading Spanish, Mexican, and French territories.
During the Civil War, the Union army put escaping slaves in concentration camps where tens of thousands died from starvation and diseases.
Americans came up with the idea of apartheid by enforcing racial segregation in housing, employment, education, marriage, and sundown towns. In fact, the majority of towns in some northern and western States were sundown towns.
Americans perfected the idea of eugenics, forcing countless women to have forced sterilizations and abortions. Forced sterilizations continued through at least 2010.
[b][i]Why the Nazis Loved America[/i][/b]
https://time.com/4703586/nazis-america-race-law/
[b][i]What America Taught the Nazis[/i][/b]
In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racism—the United States
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/
[b][i]How American Racism Influenced Hitler[/i][/b]
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler
[b][i]How the Nazis Were Inspired by Jim Crow[/i][/b]
To craft legal discrimination, the Third Reich studied the United States.
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-were-inspired-by-jim-crow
[b][i]Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law[/i][/b]
How American race law provided a blueprint for Nazi Germany
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model
[b][i]Why the Nazis studied American race laws for inspiration[/i][/b]
https://aeon.co/ideas/why-the-nazis-studied-american-race-laws-for-inspiration
So, take some time to read the articles. They are not fake news. The Nazis were much nicer than the Americans because they did reject some of the more extreme racist laws and practices that were common in America because they thought that they were too harsh. For example, the Nazis didn't engage in lynchings, which was a favorite White American hobby.
"As Whitman shows, the Nuremberg Laws were crafted in an atmosphere of considerable attention to the precedents American race laws had to offer. German praise for American practices, already found in Hitler’s Mein Kampf, was continuous throughout the early 1930s, and the most radical Nazi lawyers were eager advocates of the use of American models. But while Jim Crow segregation was one aspect of American law that appealed to Nazi radicals, it was not the most consequential one. Rather, both American citizenship and antimiscegenation laws proved directly relevant to the two principal Nuremberg Laws—the Citizenship Law and the Blood Law. [c=BF0000][b][i]Whitman looks at the ultimate, ugly irony that when Nazis rejected American practices, it was sometimes not because they found them too enlightened, but too harsh."[/i][/b][/c]
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model
Vin53 · M
You rattle off 6 articles as your answer? Get back to me when you've read them?? lolololol
@Diotrephes
@Diotrephes
TheSentinel · M
@Diotrephes So from your reply, I assumed wrong. It appears as though you are a Nazi sympathizer.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Vin53 [quote]You rattle off 6 articles as your answer? Get back to me when you've read them?? lolololol[/quote]
If you are too intellectually challenged to discuss the subject matter that is OK. Just say that you don't know enough about the topic to be able to express a rational opinion. No one will hold your ignorance against you. After all, we can't know everything about everything.
If you are too intellectually challenged to discuss the subject matter that is OK. Just say that you don't know enough about the topic to be able to express a rational opinion. No one will hold your ignorance against you. After all, we can't know everything about everything.
Vin53 · M
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@TheSentinel [quote]So from your reply, I assumed wrong. It appears as though you are a Nazi sympathizer.[/quote]
I am far from a Nazi sympathizer. I am merely trying to discuss world history in an objective manner. The reality is that America was far more racist than Nazi Germany was and America was far more brutal in its treatment of its citizens.
It's been my observation that people who piss and moan about the Nazis are upset because the Nazis focused on killing Whites instead of Black and Brown people.
Do you see anyone whining about the number of Asians that the Japanese killed?
Do you see anyone whing about the millions of Asian Indians Churchill starved to death?
When have you heard any outrage over the ten-twelve million Black Africans King Leopold II of Belgium killed and mutilated in the Congo?
Do you ever hear any apologies from the American government for the tens of millions indigenous people it killed in its ethnic-cleansing program to take their ancestral lands?
So, the Nazis might have killed a few Jews who might have been commies and they were definitely domestic enemies of the German nation. When you look at pictures of the concentration camps you will see smiling fat Jews of all ages in their special uniforms showing their protected status. The other ethnic groups were ragged and skin and bones but even the skinniest one was fatter than the Asian Indians that Churchill starved.
I am far from a Nazi sympathizer. I am merely trying to discuss world history in an objective manner. The reality is that America was far more racist than Nazi Germany was and America was far more brutal in its treatment of its citizens.
It's been my observation that people who piss and moan about the Nazis are upset because the Nazis focused on killing Whites instead of Black and Brown people.
Do you see anyone whining about the number of Asians that the Japanese killed?
Do you see anyone whing about the millions of Asian Indians Churchill starved to death?
When have you heard any outrage over the ten-twelve million Black Africans King Leopold II of Belgium killed and mutilated in the Congo?
Do you ever hear any apologies from the American government for the tens of millions indigenous people it killed in its ethnic-cleansing program to take their ancestral lands?
So, the Nazis might have killed a few Jews who might have been commies and they were definitely domestic enemies of the German nation. When you look at pictures of the concentration camps you will see smiling fat Jews of all ages in their special uniforms showing their protected status. The other ethnic groups were ragged and skin and bones but even the skinniest one was fatter than the Asian Indians that Churchill starved.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Vin53 [quote]wow, there's no civil nor social reason to discuss Nazism. You fail son.[/quote]
I'm sorry that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. You posted the video on July 3 showing a guy wearing a swastika armband getting punched by a big guy. You introduced the topic.
I'm sorry that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. You posted the video on July 3 showing a guy wearing a swastika armband getting punched by a big guy. You introduced the topic.
Vin53 · M
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Vin53 [quote]I did post that video.[/quote]
That led to the subsequent discussion. So, if you see no value in discussing the issue maybe you shouldn't have posted the video clip.
That led to the subsequent discussion. So, if you see no value in discussing the issue maybe you shouldn't have posted the video clip.
Vin53 · M
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Vin53 [quote]What's to discuss? See a Nazi, punch a Nazi.
Full stop.[/quote]
Given your strong feelings, maybe you can list some characteristics or actions of Nazis that you find so disagreeable. Are they the only group that you find so offensive?
Full stop.[/quote]
Given your strong feelings, maybe you can list some characteristics or actions of Nazis that you find so disagreeable. Are they the only group that you find so offensive?