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BohemianBabe · M
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
This story gets more twisted with each lefty re-telling.
It wasn't DeSantis, it was his lawyer.
And that wasn't the ONLY thing his lawyer said on the subject. 🙄
https://www.truthorfiction.com/desantis-lawyers-define-woke/
This story gets more twisted with each lefty re-telling.
It wasn't DeSantis, it was his lawyer.
And that wasn't the ONLY thing his lawyer said on the subject. 🙄
https://www.truthorfiction.com/desantis-lawyers-define-woke/
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell According to your link:
Claim
"DeSantis' lawyers were forced by the court to define 'woke.' The lead lawyer described it as 'The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.'"
Rating
True
So... yeah? His lawyer was speaking on behalf of him, and he gave the definition in the meme. How is that twisting what happened?
Claim
"DeSantis' lawyers were forced by the court to define 'woke.' The lead lawyer described it as 'The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.'"
Rating
True
So... yeah? His lawyer was speaking on behalf of him, and he gave the definition in the meme. How is that twisting what happened?
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
Read, Boo-Boo, read... 🙄
"“To me it means someone who believes that there are systemic injustices in the criminal justice system and on that basis they can decline to fully enforce and uphold the law,” Newman said.
Asked what “woke” means more generally, Newman said “it would be the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”
Newman added that DeSantis doesn’t believe there are systemic injustices in the U.S. He also emphasized he believed Warren’s “wokeism” led him to sign the pledge not to prosecute abortion crimes, the primary factor that led to his suspension."
Read, Boo-Boo, read... 🙄
"“To me it means someone who believes that there are systemic injustices in the criminal justice system and on that basis they can decline to fully enforce and uphold the law,” Newman said.
Asked what “woke” means more generally, Newman said “it would be the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”
Newman added that DeSantis doesn’t believe there are systemic injustices in the U.S. He also emphasized he believed Warren’s “wokeism” led him to sign the pledge not to prosecute abortion crimes, the primary factor that led to his suspension."
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell And who are the first to claim cherry-picking and out of context quotes, eh?
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell 😆
That's totally grasping at straws.
DeSantis never uses "woke" the first way. He uses it the second way, which is why his lawyer says "to me" in the first part, but when asked what the general definition is, he uses DeSantis' definition.
This is why you usually just post giga-cringe boomer poems. You're not good at making real arguments.
That's totally grasping at straws.
DeSantis never uses "woke" the first way. He uses it the second way, which is why his lawyer says "to me" in the first part, but when asked what the general definition is, he uses DeSantis' definition.
This is why you usually just post giga-cringe boomer poems. You're not good at making real arguments.
BohemianBabe · M
@sunsporter1649
This case isn't out of context or cherry-picking. This is DeSantis' own lawyer giving the court the definition that DeSantis uses.
And who are the first to claim cherry-picking and out of context quotes, eh?
This case isn't out of context or cherry-picking. This is DeSantis' own lawyer giving the court the definition that DeSantis uses.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@sunsporter1649
Boo-Boo, Elwood, etc... 😂
"And who are the first to claim cherry-picking and out of context quotes, eh?"
Boo-Boo, Elwood, etc... 😂
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
The fact remains that you pretended DeSantis was "forced" to admit what you wanted him to admit, which neither he nor his lawyer did. 🙄
The fact remains that you pretended DeSantis was "forced" to admit what you wanted him to admit, which neither he nor his lawyer did. 🙄
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell He was forced in the sense that he always avoids defining "wokeness" because he usually uses it as a dog whistle, but because he wanted to make laws based on "wokeness," he had no choice but to have his lawyer give the definition that they want to use.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
You NEVER get tired of being dead wrong, eh, Boo-Boo? 😂
A 'dog-whistle' is the use of oblique language to convey a hidden meaning to be understood only by a certain intended group of followers.
There has never been any question of DeSantis' use of 'woke,' and his lawyer gave both his definition and the definition believed by others (i.e., liberals, mostly), both of which can be found in any good dictionary of the English language.
You NEVER get tired of being dead wrong, eh, Boo-Boo? 😂
A 'dog-whistle' is the use of oblique language to convey a hidden meaning to be understood only by a certain intended group of followers.
There has never been any question of DeSantis' use of 'woke,' and his lawyer gave both his definition and the definition believed by others (i.e., liberals, mostly), both of which can be found in any good dictionary of the English language.
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell Booooooollscheeeeeeet.
DeSantis and pretty much all Fascists do everything they can to avoid defining "wokeness." That's why when they're on the spot, and they don't want to give the honest answer, they don't know what to say.
[media=https://youtu.be/z6nvwMzjeaQ]
DeSantis and pretty much all Fascists do everything they can to avoid defining "wokeness." That's why when they're on the spot, and they don't want to give the honest answer, they don't know what to say.
[media=https://youtu.be/z6nvwMzjeaQ]
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
So you're saying DeSantis is a cross-dresser, appearing in that video? 😂 😂 😂
You blew it again, Boo-Boo.
So you're saying DeSantis is a cross-dresser, appearing in that video? 😂 😂 😂
You blew it again, Boo-Boo.
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell WTF? This is your strangest deflection yet.
The Fash in this video didn't want to give the honest answer because the honest answer is horrifying. Which is the same reason DeSantis never defines wokeness, except for when he has to in court because there are legal implications.
The Fash in this video didn't want to give the honest answer because the honest answer is horrifying. Which is the same reason DeSantis never defines wokeness, except for when he has to in court because there are legal implications.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
Once again, Boo-Boo, there are TWO common definitions of "woke," and there has NEVER been any doubt whatsoever about which one DeSantis uses.
2 disapproving : politically liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke
Once again, Boo-Boo, there are TWO common definitions of "woke," and there has NEVER been any doubt whatsoever about which one DeSantis uses.
2 disapproving : politically liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell Sure, but the Right doesn't want to give either of those definitions. The first one, like I said, is horrific. Republicans don't want to be like: You know how classism keeps people poor? Welp, we want to make classism even worse!
And they don't want to give the second definition, because then people will realize that most of the time, "woke" means nothing, it's just an insult that Fascists use towards anyone they disagree with. And even worse, it's an insult based on the idea that Antifascists are bad because we want less injustice.
That's why when put on the spot, you Fashies don't give either definition.
And they don't want to give the second definition, because then people will realize that most of the time, "woke" means nothing, it's just an insult that Fascists use towards anyone they disagree with. And even worse, it's an insult based on the idea that Antifascists are bad because we want less injustice.
That's why when put on the spot, you Fashies don't give either definition.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
Wrong, as usual. 🙄
"Woke" is used, for example, when a D.A. refuses to prosecute smash-and-grab store looters.
But of course, Boo-Boo, anyone who thinks that is a 'fascist,' according to you. 🙄 🙄
In comment after nonsensical comment, you prove yourself to be a hopeless case. 🙄 🙄 🙄
Unless of course you are simply trolling. 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄
..."woke" means nothing, it's just an insult that Fascists use towards anyone they disagree with."
Wrong, as usual. 🙄
"Woke" is used, for example, when a D.A. refuses to prosecute smash-and-grab store looters.
But of course, Boo-Boo, anyone who thinks that is a 'fascist,' according to you. 🙄 🙄
In comment after nonsensical comment, you prove yourself to be a hopeless case. 🙄 🙄 🙄
Unless of course you are simply trolling. 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell
Oh, I'm not arguing there. "Woke" is used as a meaningless insult all the time. But Republicans do anything they can to not define wokeness. Again, because they don't want to admit that they're against reducing social injustice.
Dude, are you seriously doing the meme?
"Woke" is used, for example, when a D.A. refuses to prosecute smash-and-grab store looters.
Oh, I'm not arguing there. "Woke" is used as a meaningless insult all the time. But Republicans do anything they can to not define wokeness. Again, because they don't want to admit that they're against reducing social injustice.
anyone who thinks that is a 'fascist,' according to you
Dude, are you seriously doing the meme?
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe
Of course you aren't arguing there, because you haven't a leg to stand on.
Much as you might wish that 'woke' would only be used in its original meaning, it is precisely D.A.s and other officials that selectively enforce laws based on a ridiculously exaggerated sense of wokeism that have brought the pejorative definition on themselves, and for good reason. It is not a 'meaningless insult' at all; it's a correct description of their mindset and resulting behavior.
And I know of no one, Republican or Democrat, who claims there is no socilal injustice whatsoever. The disagreement is over its extent. Nor do I know anyone who won't define what they mean by 'woke.'
YOU are the one who throws around the fash-word all the time, Boo-Boo, or is it the other twerp?
You two are often hard to distinguish. 😂
"Oh, I'm not arguing there. "Woke" is used as a meaningless insult all the time."
Of course you aren't arguing there, because you haven't a leg to stand on.
Much as you might wish that 'woke' would only be used in its original meaning, it is precisely D.A.s and other officials that selectively enforce laws based on a ridiculously exaggerated sense of wokeism that have brought the pejorative definition on themselves, and for good reason. It is not a 'meaningless insult' at all; it's a correct description of their mindset and resulting behavior.
And I know of no one, Republican or Democrat, who claims there is no socilal injustice whatsoever. The disagreement is over its extent. Nor do I know anyone who won't define what they mean by 'woke.'
"Dude, are you seriously doing the meme?"
YOU are the one who throws around the fash-word all the time, Boo-Boo, or is it the other twerp?
You two are often hard to distinguish. 😂
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell
You got me there, my beliefs are based on reality.
Of course. The Republicans can't just come out and say they want to make injustice worse. That's why they dog whistle.
Of course you aren't arguing there, because you haven't a leg to stand on.
You got me there, my beliefs are based on reality.
And I know of no one, Republican or Democrat, who claims there is no socilal injustice whatsoever
Of course. The Republicans can't just come out and say they want to make injustice worse. That's why they dog whistle.
YOU are the one who throws around the fash-word all the time