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Of the Christians on this site, how many of y'all believe that Noah's Ark and the Worldwide flood were historic events vs metaphorical/exaggerated?

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It's a 100% historical fact
It has elements of truth but it was more allegorical
It was 100% made up
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I mean, the science from several different fields precludes a global flood ever having happened but i don't expect the general public to be very familiar with that so i'm just interested to hear what folks believe.

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ArishMell · 70-79, M
I like the cartoon, despite its glaring anachronism - or perhaps because of it!

It is an absurd story but flood myths are fairly common in many ancient cultures. Floods are not that rare; and most likely the mythical ones like that of Noah stem from folk-memories of particularly disastrous, but still only regional, floods.

Such stories arose in the times when few people travelled far from home (unless nomads or far-distant merchants), or knew anything about the world beyond their bit of it.

And of course, tales grow longer in the telling.

As for why such a silly story is in the Bible, we need think of the Ancient Hebrew authors' intentions beyond simple statements of religious belief. They were basically small-time priest-kings coalescing their tribal society into a cohesive entity based around a single, new religion with Zoroastrian roots.

It likely would have been "politically" useful for them to select and adapt the more "useful" old tales while also creating a sort of "Year 0" to help expunge the past from their people's ancestral memories; and say it is all "God's word" to deflect questioning.

Many of their books, written over some centuries, are really only their own versions of their own history, and their opinions on society, faith and laws; undated and not corroborated by anyone else. They are useful historically only in little more than saying what those people believed.
FoxyGoddess · 51-55, F
Even when I was a Christian, I realized that the Bible was a very localized book, taking place in the Middle East. So when I read the Noah story, it made sense to me in a localized way. The Middle East had a very large flood that probably seemed like it covered the entire world, because, technically, with their scope of the world, it did. I didn't find that so confusing.

What was confusing were the expeditions to places far removed from the Middle East to try and find the Ark. Like, why would you look beyond the scope of the "known world" at the time of the story? That didn't make sense.
@FoxyGoddess

That seems to make the most sense to me
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Most the Bible are just retold legends from the middle east. Gilgamesh has a flood legend. Resurrections are all through Mesopotamian, Hittite and Egyptian myths.

Elaine Pagels has several books on this topic. She is a legit scholar on the history of religion.
@Crazywaterspring

Yeah there's definitely a lot of sharing of mythology which is not surprising from an anthropological perspective.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
The Noah flood is simply a war story that's a metaphor for an invasion that took place. Remember, the places that existed before it existed afterwards without getting an inch of the flood. Read the whole story. Pick up on the dove and the olive branch, symbols of peace.

BTW, the Noah character is the only person in the entire fairytale that did exactly as he had been told to do, without whining about it. Even Jesus whined.
@Diotrephes

Interesting, i haven't heard that before.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Pikachu
Interesting, i haven't heard that before.

Take some time and read the story. When you come across certain words like "raven, dove, olive leaf" look up what they mean metaphorically.
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That's rich coming from someone was lives in a pokéball most their life. 😝 That's how we know all it's real. Because how else did we get pokéballs if not for Yahweh's hand? 🫴⚾
@Pikachu Yahweh surely left instructions for that in his holy script. It wouldn't make sense if he left it out.
@froggtongue

It's probably in one of the parables, maybe in psalms lol
@Pikachu go ahead and look there. I'll place my bet on the apocrypha or one of the holy books which didn't make it in today's bible.
gregloa · 61-69, M
I believe it happened. There are sea shells everywhere.
@VladG94

Nobody cares what you think tbh!!!!
VladG94 · 31-35, M
@Pikachu
It is usually futile to try to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell
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@VladG94

Apparently when i disagreed with you earlier about the relative benefits of a minority vs majority government you took that as a personal attack.
Not sure why.
Please tone down the aggression.
If you have something you wish to discuss then we can do so.
If you have only emotional outbursts and insults....not interested.
Up to you 🙂✌
masterofyou · 80-89, M
Did yoy know 700 million years ago was a big ball of ice...🥶🥶🥶
@masterofyou

Was it?

 
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