So let's discuss the evidence around us that supports the conclusion of Evolution over Creation! Woop woop!
For the purposes of this thread, we'll define "creation" as a single event over a brief period of time during which all life on earth was created in more or less its present form by a deliberate, intelligent designer.
We'll concentrate on a few basic evidences: The fossil record Gross morphology Genetics
First up: The fossil record!
Using an evolutionary model we would expect to see life on earth going from less complex to more complex as adaptations compound. From a creation standpoint where the animals were created at around the same time we would expect to see animals at all stages of complexity mixed together.
Well, which circumstance do we actually observe?
If we look at the fossil record, we see the former example: Simple invertebrates to fish to reptiles to mammals and so on. These are separated by distinct geological layers. And while we do of course see simple organisms coexisting with complex ones ( just look at an earth worm) we never see something like a ichthyosaur in a fossil bed with trilobites. Nowhere. Ever. AND we find fossil beds comprised entirely of simple organisms and we never find things like a mosasaur alongside a whale or a triceratops alongside a rhino.
How does creation account for this data? Can it account for the data better than an evolution model?
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I did a bit of this stuff on the religion sections of SW but tbh I regret it.
Not because what I posted was wrong (it wasn't) but because I ended up offending people who are actually not really toxic.
If people follow religion in a way that does no damage to others, then that is fine with me. I regard their beliefs as superstition but if they are nice people otherwise then I shouldn't care so much.
Go after the Christian hard-right by any means because they utterly deserve it. Banning abortions and so much more is awful. Also Islamic fundamentalist.
People who follow it peacefully and don't impinge their values on others, I have no problems with.
@Pikachu Yeah. And you are smart. I'm a British atheist schoolteacher who is working in a Catholic school. Religion gives a sense of community and there are even some implicit socialist(ish) aspects to the way the community operates.
I also have huge issues with 'liberal' atheist narratives which justified wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, bans on Muslim headscarves bans. I'm not saying you support these things, I'm just pointing out the dangers for people on the left who make atheism a political issue. I appreciate things are different in North America.
Yeah i don't hold with any of that. Atheism is not a religion but i think it holds the same place as religion in terms of religious freedom. Atheists are entitled to their beliefs but not entitled to force their unbelief on others.
@Burnley123 It is my considered opinion that since the more toxic Christians do the same thing, and then expect one to ignore their posts if one does not care for them, you should not regret doing the same. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
