If God created evolution, doesn't that count as creationism?

So evolution could be characterised - in ultra reductionist terms- as quite simply *choosing the path of less resistance*.

So if God in His Infinite Majestic Glory and Patience created an array where there were avenues or conduits that allowed species to - over 1000s of generations choose the path of less resistance and "evolve" doesn't that count as *design*?

If that's a little obtuse try this, if you reach out and try to change the universe with your own hands is that really any different from seeming not to do anything but really you don't need to because before anyone noticed, you arrayed things with such craftsman ship that all you need to do is let things fall into place. God was doing the ground work before you were even able to pay attention.

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Zonuss · 46-50, M Best Comment

Interesting.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Zonuss Not when you think about it. 😀

Zonuss · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 What do you mean not when you think about it.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Zonuss It's inconsequential and trivial... merely a desperate attempt to get his magical entity noticed

What isn’t explained is how evolution might be ‘choosing the path of less resistance’.

Less resistance to what?

Jm31xxx · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 less resistance means kind of like, when water flows down a mountain, it will choose (by which I mean take) the path of less resistance. Which can be a metaphor for evolution.

But that's when you step back from the statue and admire this Master Artisans work in all its Glory in a single appraisal...

... If you step nearer and look at the detail, 2 members of the same species that are significantly genetically different (ie mutations, variations, whatever) could have a significant differential in their ability to survive and reproduce. One might have an edge over the other and will experience less resistance. So on a local and global level, my metaphor works.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Jm31xxx

a metaphor for evolution

????

Less resistance to what?

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Jm31xxx There aren’t any paths in evolution

Evolution isn’t teleological. It’s not trying to reach some sort of goal, so there can't be any paths to get there.

Jm31xxx · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 I mean, retroactively, an observer who charts the changes would be able to delineate a "path"

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Jm31xxx Only in hindsight... because genes march backward into a totally unpredictable future.

There’s no path in front of them

Jm31xxx · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 yes that's exactly what I meant!!! In hindsight!!

Zonuss · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 You are a non believer.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Zonuss In what?

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Jm31xxx So if what has happened had not happened, then things would be different.

OK...

Zonuss · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 God.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Zonuss I’m not sure what that has to do with this, but for what it’s worth:

1. there's no proof that gods exist
2. there's no proof that gods don't exist
3. in any event, there’s no compelling reason to even postulate gods, and the postulation explains nothing... it merely tries to explain everything away. We can drop the postulation into the rubbish bin, and lose nothing
4. therefore, I have no gods

No belief (or disbelief) required 😀

Zonuss · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 That's from your personal perspective. But dear it is way deeper than you can ever begin to imagine. Especially for those who have experienced the supernatural on both sides. You are not even close. 🙂✨

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Zonuss Where’s the compelling necessity to even entertain the postulation?

Personal experience is just that... restricted to one person, and certainly not a reason for others to have gods

But my main point is that my position doesn’t involve belief

Zonuss · 46-50, M

@newjaninev2 There are underlying issues that come into play. And for a lot of people it goes beyond personal belief. Like I said the supernatural adds to the discussion.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Zonuss So your justification for postulations about the existence of the supernatural is... the supernatural? 😀

But to return to the topic posted... evolution simply doesn’t require any sort of magical entity. Why then complicate things by introducing one? What is gained?