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Waveney · 41-45, M
The war is illegal. They were lucky to get out alive.
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Waveney What is a legal war? Define
Waveney · 41-45, M
@DanielsASJ Sure.
A legal war, under international law, is one fought in self-defence against an actual or imminent attack, or authorised by the UN Security Council.
The America/Israel attack on Iran meets neither condition. There was no evidence whatsoever of an imminent threat, and no UN approval, which is why it is a violation of the UN Charter’s prohibition on aggression. All the legal experts agree.
Calling it defence doesn’t make it lawful. By the standard set after World War II, launching force without legal basis is itself the crime.
You're welcome.
A legal war, under international law, is one fought in self-defence against an actual or imminent attack, or authorised by the UN Security Council.
The America/Israel attack on Iran meets neither condition. There was no evidence whatsoever of an imminent threat, and no UN approval, which is why it is a violation of the UN Charter’s prohibition on aggression. All the legal experts agree.
Calling it defence doesn’t make it lawful. By the standard set after World War II, launching force without legal basis is itself the crime.
You're welcome.
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Waveney Why you always wake up after fire? Don't let the condition evolve which could turn into a fire.
RunTheJulz · 46-50, F
Waveney · 41-45, M
@RunTheJulz The GOAT.
RunTheJulz · 46-50, F
@Waveney Gone too soon… ☹
Waveney · 41-45, M
@DanielsASJ So because you think that something, some day, might happen, you decide to go to war.
That doesn't wash in international law, fella. Sorry.
That doesn't wash in international law, fella. Sorry.
Waveney · 41-45, M
@RunTheJulz "It's a crazy, fucked-up world, but I'm glad to be a part of it".
RunTheJulz · 46-50, F
@Waveney Not much enforcement of international law in this era… sadly. 😔
Waveney · 41-45, M
@RunTheJulz No indeed. And Trump and Netanyahu know it.
RunTheJulz · 46-50, F
@Waveney Netanyahu is at least being tried for some of his crimes though I doubt that he will get a slap on the wrist even. It’s pathetic but it’s consistent how absolute power corrupts absolutely…
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Waveney Political Science has 2 streams. Number 1 who believe in International Laws and they align with Idealism philosophy. In Idealism, they believe that everything can be settled with International laws and every nation will abide by the set rules. Because these are rules. They believe that
Number 2 who do not believe in International Laws and they align with Realism
In Realism, The World is in a constant state of chaos and No world order, whatsoever, can not handle the complex relations nations have with each other. World acts like a primitive jungle where Might is Right. Therefore, Realists believe in making themselves stronger.
Number 2 who do not believe in International Laws and they align with Realism
In Realism, The World is in a constant state of chaos and No world order, whatsoever, can not handle the complex relations nations have with each other. World acts like a primitive jungle where Might is Right. Therefore, Realists believe in making themselves stronger.
Waveney · 41-45, M
@DanielsASJ So in other words, you believe that all wars that Trump starts are justified because he's a Realist and Might is Right. Evidence be damned. No worries.
Oh, and way to move the goalposts ;)
Oh, and way to move the goalposts ;)
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Waveney I believe that war for a just cause is right. So that the kids of Iranian Generals do not stay in USA and start lobbying against USA.
Waveney · 41-45, M
@DanielsASJ OK. Well, this is not a just cause, but at least you have admitted that there is no legal standpoint for the war. We'll leave it at that. Happy Easter.
@DanielsASJ That is the truth of all of this. It has nothing to do with Iran and Israel and Nuclear weapons, it is about the paranoia that someone might go to America and hurt someone, even though Americans already hurt each other ever day and nobody does anything about it.
It's a sickness, plain and simple, and murder is the simple way to make simple minded people happier.
It's a sickness, plain and simple, and murder is the simple way to make simple minded people happier.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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Waveney · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 That's not a declaration of war.
Waveney · 41-45, M
@dale74 He's not a dictator. He was elected. And quite apart from that, that's not how reality, or law, works 😂. Calling someone a dictator doesn’t magically convert their rhetoric into a legal act of war, it just shows you’re replacing evidence with labels. By your logic, every hostile speech by leaders like Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong Un would justify immediate attacks.













