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Catastrophic flooding! a solution

In the Pacific Northwest and American South!2 potential solutions 1) improved drainage to pre existing (natural waterways/ back to the ocean. And 2) a canal/aqueduct system similar to the Roman empire’s that would transport water to areas where it is needed (displacement and distribution of overflow to areas where it is needed or manageable. or as a fuel free (non gasoline) form of transportation. Obviously the roads have become over crowded
Time to try something new.
We spend billions in the Middle East and give money to Israel; wtf there are problems here at home infrastructure could fix it. Support America until this catastrophe is alleviated become isolationist. Dumbarse Trump.
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jehova · 36-40, M
It’s only about attempting something else. Sea level rise can be addressed in terms besides only global warming. There are plenty of other factors involved. Desalination being my favorite. Displacement/redistribution is great too.

In reaction.
1) the river isn’t being altered rainwater is being diverted to the already existent waterway. Human construction has altered the environment so much already rarely are original drainage patterns still intact. Instead parking lots roads and residences.
2) The Roman Empire built a continent sized aqueduct network it is mostly level but with careful engineering it can be made to “move upward” at certain points with only gravity as an input. Trial and error.
Watercraft transport would be wise to be man powered for fitness improvements, with rented canoes/kayaks for pedestrians might generate revenue. Much needed. Ecotourism potentially. More walk across England initiatives less drunk driving.
Clogged rivers? Use the deposits in artificial waterways to replenish natural waterways while studying littering patterns. Science!! And jobs. Possibly top soil?
3) yes rail is a preferred option for freight and passenger(s). my precise concern is congested roadways more overcrowded by passengers cars than freight vehicles. But yes both.
Also my concern is sea level rise hence multipurpose aqueducts.
The pursuit is reduced cost not speed. Everyone is in such a hurry but we don’t need to be. Life is short much of it spent sitting in a car stuck in traffic.
We need to fix that.
Good chat!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Well-considered but I'm afraid flawed:

1) A river is at its most efficient when left in its natural state, not "improved".

That includes flood-plains, but it's not the river's fault if we build on them then moan when our homes flood.

A case-study:

The "Somerset Levels" in SW England. These fens were drained from the 18C onwards by networks of artificial channels locally called "rines", to the natural rivers that discharge into the sea in the Bristol Channel. They still work to some extent, helped by pumping-stations, but silting ofg the rines and rivers over the years has brought back much of the flooding.

Then we hear calls to "dredge the rivers" as used to be done. Only.... what is being dredged? That has to be considered carefully, for waterways only just above high-tide sea-level or a lake surface. Clearing accumulated obstructions and narrowings will help flood-water to escape, but mere deepening of rivers and lakes can only create deeps. It will not affect the water's surface altitude.


2) Canals and aqueducts will only work down-hill from their highest feeder streams, but I agree they might provide water-supplies or flood-relief, if designed suitably.

There have been suggestions aired in Britain of using its still fairly extensive canal network - now used only by pleasure-craft - as a sort of "water grid" but I don't know if this has been investigated seriously.


Using canals for transport is feasible but only to a limited extent, and the vessels still need engines or perhaps battery-powered electric motors.

Historically, canals apart from major estuarine (e.g St. Lawrence Seaway), and marine (Panama, Suez, Corinth) routes, canals originally overtook horse-wagons for a lot of industrial transport in the 18C. In turn they were displaced by the railway (19C) then both to a large extent to the roads (20C). The railways have made some come-back for moving bulk and container goods, thanks to
capacity, changing transport practices and increasing speed. (Most of the old-style goods trains on British lines were limited to about 30mph. The modern ones run at over twice that; passenger trains typically from 70 to well over 100, mph.)

The pressures were speed, convenience, certainty - and pure economics.

Canals for commercial transport worked well in Britain (their birth-place) and some European countries, but were rare in the USA, and are unlikely to return as serious inland freight routes.

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So sidestepping party politics, what might the USA do?

Transport: I think your best bet is massive investment in the railways. I know they do carry huge freight tonnages but you need modern, electrically-powered freight trains cruising at maybe 60mph and passenger-trains at maybe 120mph; on the present routes. The continent could certainly host "high-speed" lines like the French TGV but they are very costly, politically sensitive and you'd need consider likely trade. So up-rating and electrifying the existing main lines may be better - and don't forget lineside fences, and automatic gates on level-crossings!

Water: Aqueducts could be worth considering where the physical geography allows, provided they don't lose water by absorption and evaporation. Otherwise the only practical way to deliver water to homes and business at State or National area level would be a comprehensive pipeline network.

Flood-relief may need large overflow channels and better planning controls on developments; but simply modifying existing rivers could even make things worse.

 
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