Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
You should always register to vote.
Even if you are unsatisfied with the candidates on your ballot paper.
You can always deliberately spoil it to register your 'protest'.
It's not often your country cares what you think or prefer.
And with so many 'chancers' running for office, of all parties, it's more important now than ever.
Even if you are unsatisfied with the candidates on your ballot paper.
You can always deliberately spoil it to register your 'protest'.
It's not often your country cares what you think or prefer.
And with so many 'chancers' running for office, of all parties, it's more important now than ever.
AfternoonWine · M
@Picklebobble2 My failure to open this letter wasn't deliberate.
SomeMichGuy · M
@AfternoonWine Nor was it an example of prompt attention. 😉
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
It doesn't need to be world changing. People voted tactically in 2024 to remove the Conservatives who trashed the economy under Liz Truss and sacrificed public interest for private gain under Boris Johnson.
Starmer is a competent technocrat who also happens to be quite good at uniting different factions of the Labour Party. He does not pretend to be anything else.
He made a pretty good effort at the conference to show how ridiculous and hypocritical Farage's policy announcement is. He also made a decent moral case for the rule of law and basic human dignity. He aligned himself with remarks made by Ed Davey last week. Hopefully another tactical alliance (includung any Tories who have not legged it to Reform) will see off the racists.
Starmer is a competent technocrat who also happens to be quite good at uniting different factions of the Labour Party. He does not pretend to be anything else.
He made a pretty good effort at the conference to show how ridiculous and hypocritical Farage's policy announcement is. He also made a decent moral case for the rule of law and basic human dignity. He aligned himself with remarks made by Ed Davey last week. Hopefully another tactical alliance (includung any Tories who have not legged it to Reform) will see off the racists.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AfternoonWine Thanks 👍🏻
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 To be fair, it has never been difficult to split the various factions of the Labour Party. It has been similarly divided in the past under far more charismatic and popular leaders. The key will be setting aside differences within the party and with other parties to form a strategic coalition to squeeze out Reform in 2029. If Starmer has become an electoral liability, by all means eject him . . but without blood or too much acrimony. For my money he is the most plausible and authentic leader currently available . . but I am rarely on the right side of history 🤷♀
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl I'm a labour party member and can tell you from close experience that Starmer and his allies are extremely factional..They are already an electoral liability.
I like you but here we disagree.
I like you but here we disagree.
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AfternoonWine · M
@HootyTheNightOwl Well yes, but if we'd been planning voter fraud, of course I'd have opened all my post.. But we weren't planning anything and didn't know about the role problem til we got there.
As with so many of these security checks, the innocent are inconvenienced but the criminals have done their homework.
As with so many of these security checks, the innocent are inconvenienced but the criminals have done their homework.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
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AfternoonWine · M
@benJohnson99 So you've entirely discounted the Tory party? The "normal" run of things is that a "protest party" like Reform rises mid-term and falls back as the election approaches.
We'll have to see how things turn out over the next year or so. Will there be defections? What will people in the wings, like Boris Johnson, choose to do? Will Kemi Badenoch resign? Will Robert Jenrick replace her, and if he doesn't get the Tory leadership, what will he do?
Will Starmer resign...
There's lots of permutations in our politics. It's just not the binary choice of more Starmer or Farage. Compare this to the US in the run up to last year's presidential election and it's clear that our system is a lot "healthier."
We'll have to see how things turn out over the next year or so. Will there be defections? What will people in the wings, like Boris Johnson, choose to do? Will Kemi Badenoch resign? Will Robert Jenrick replace her, and if he doesn't get the Tory leadership, what will he do?
Will Starmer resign...
There's lots of permutations in our politics. It's just not the binary choice of more Starmer or Farage. Compare this to the US in the run up to last year's presidential election and it's clear that our system is a lot "healthier."
benJohnson99 · 18-21, M
@AfternoonWine l think the legacy of Liz Truss finished the Tories
AfternoonWine · M
@benJohnson99 Yes. Possibly. But maybe that's because you're "18-21." They did get rid of Liz Truss pretty sharpish. The main parties have been bouncing back for decades. (Wikipedia lists the Tory Party as 191 years old.) But maybe this time.?
The question is (often repeated): are we entering uncharted waters? As far as the US is concerned, I'd say yes. The re-election of Donald Trump and the Democrats failure to come up with viable new leaders - it looks a real mess.
For us, our responsiveness (for instance in getting rid of Truss) I'd say it's a positive sign.
The question is (often repeated): are we entering uncharted waters? As far as the US is concerned, I'd say yes. The re-election of Donald Trump and the Democrats failure to come up with viable new leaders - it looks a real mess.
For us, our responsiveness (for instance in getting rid of Truss) I'd say it's a positive sign.
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