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If you are pro Ukraine, does that mean you are right, Ukraine good, Russia bad, is it really that simple ?

I speak Russian and have been to Russia many times. I read Russian media. I know many Russians. It’s all propagandist BS. Russia is acting as an evil aggressor.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Adeptlinguist

Yes, and the Holodomor was all BS western propaganda too.

My grandmother read Walter Duranty's honest news reporting in the NY Times.
helenS · 36-40, F
Russia attacked a foreign independent country and is killing people there every single day, using rockets, drones, landmines, everything they have.
What do you mean, is it "that simple"? Would you please rather talk to a Ukrainian mother whose children have been killed, and ask [u]her[/u] if it's really that simple?
I'm too polite to tell you how horrible I think you are.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helenS Actually that is not true. The lands that Russia now occupies are Russian lands by popular vote. They voted to leave Ukraine and become part of Russia. Thus technically Ukraine is the military aggressor and Russia is the denvender of its sovereign territory.
tindrummer · M
@helenS here comes the spoon fed kremlin party line from h.j.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@tindrummer lets get this out of Ukraine Russia for a moment. Alberta shares a border with Montana. Alberta has been abused by Canada since before Canada became a nation. Alberta was settled by Americans. Alberta finally gets tired of Canada's abuse and holds a referendum on joining the US thus leaving Canada. The vote is 80% in favor of joining the US. The US welcomes Alberta into the US. Canada doesn't want to lose its source of wealth and so attacks Alberta to bring it back into Canada. Thousands of Albertans (new Americans) are killed by Canada. Does the US take a stand to protect Albertans or does stand aside as America is attacked by its Nazi neighbor to the north?
Freeranger · M
This whole fiasco happened because they knew what a weak, dirty, self-absorbed old tool Joe Biden is. And I can almost see that, before the next election, Xi who has been patiently waiting in the wings, helping out Mad Vlad with aid when he finally decides to assault Taiwan, he is going to want a buffer king to watch his 6, and who better then this little 21st century Hitler monster.
Pro Ukraine? Ukraine has it's own history as does any other country....so take those blinders off. Fekkin' Putin's "special operation," [can these flipping Soviets NOT come up with a better banner? Cripes] is turning in to his mired Waterloo.....and the U.S, and our allies are getting mounds of free new intelligence on the incapabilities of Russia, which has turned in to a watershed of new intel. The Russian Bear is a facade. Putin and the oligarchs have been raping Russian to feed a few elite and no one has been minding the store. Their training, and fitting out their armies are absurdly abysmal, they rely on conscripting thousands and thousands of young men, who are poorly trained and equipped to become fodder with WWI frontal assault tactics...crossed finger hopes by blunt trauma......the Navy warships are constantly breaking down, their Air Force is anyone's guess....yadda, yadda.
What I think is....Putin is a sly, paranoid, ruthless psychopath who deploys multiple look-alikes around the region to act as a running rabbit to expose assassins. It is MY belief that he keeps a smaller retinue of highly trained personal protectorate in the event that, like Hitler, he needs to flee to Argentina or some other place that he thinks he is going to be able to live status quo. The fool just doesn't understand that.....in the 21st century, there is no longer, anywhere to hide.
And of course....Xi.....now probing us off the Aleutians [sans WWII Japanese Army]....seeking response times as he prepares his gamble with Taiwan before the next election.
He knows what will happen if Trump rides once again like El Cid....Xi fears him because "the Donald" is savvy, a brawler, a non-politician, and wholly unpredictable.

So, by now, we must understand how important our vote in the next election is do you think? Whole lotta shit on the plate.

Apologizies for a much too voluomnous post. I get carried away and at times don't know when to shut my mouth....but there are my rambling thoughts.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Freeranger First of all lets admit that Biden was not duly elected. There was massive fraud to get him into office and Trump out. Why? In part because Trump wanted peace and The Biden puppet masters want war. There is no money in peace for the arms manufacturers.
Freeranger · M
@hippyjoe1955 careful laddy....Garland may dispatch to your door....
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MarineBob · 56-60, M
If you are pri ukraine send them your money not mine
@Adeptlinguist Ukraine aside for a moment. Do you really think unless NATO provokes an incident to have Russia retaliate militarily, that Putin would otherwise think he could attack NATO countries? That WOULD involve the U. S. Military and I doubt that is an option Putin wants to try.
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
@soar2newhighs buying back what Hillary sold them
@Virgo79 Indeed! Vlad has Joe just where he wants him…begging!!
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
Yes basically. Putin launched an unprovoked war against a sovern state. Like Hitler, he is relying on isolationist feelings and fear and cowardice. He is a dictator and he must not be allowed to spread his infuence in Europe and ultimately the world.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@JimboSaturn

Putin has no chance of doing that except as a vassal to Xi.

Putin is to Xi as Mussolini was to Hitler.
fun4us2b · M
Russia wants to restore the USSR, so if they succeed in Ukraine (AKA Little Russia) next stop Poland, Lithuania etc....

Ironically, Russia is unable to defeat Ukraine and instead of seizing, it will liberate and Ukraine will finally have it's sovereignty. Sadly after so many lives lost and destroyed.
helenS · 36-40, F
@fun4us2b It's not easy for healthy men to flee, and who would accept them, in Europe?
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@fun4us2b when the us delivers f16s in December. To a war zone. Don't cry when they are shot out of the sky
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@MarineBob

[quote]"ukrainians fled their homeland instead of defending it"[/quote]

If they aren't defending it, then why is the battlefront in eastern Ukraine about where it was 1 1/2 years ago? And why didn't the Russians take Kyiv in the opening weeks of their invasion?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
I am pro Christian and this war is in large part a war of secularism against Christianity. Secularism believes that the nation state is an evil that must be removed and replaced by a one world government. Christianity holds that while secular government is established by God it is best kept to a minimum and not try to replace God. The special military operation in Ukraine began when the secular globalists in Washington decided to take out the nation state Russia. It hasn't worked out exactly as imagined by the globalists. Russia is defeating the globalists quite handily. Of course the globalists thought that Russia was a push over and was already planning its next war which was to be against the nation state of China. I suspect that even though the globalists still babble on about a war with China they are having second thoughts. If 'Spain with a gas station' is destroying their military equipment on the battle field they are having to rethink their war plans. Imagine sailing one of their 'wonder weapons' (aircraft carrier) and having it sunk by hypersonic missile that they can not defend against launched from an aircraft 1500 miles away.
@hippyjoe1955 I’ve always believed and still do that the globalists/,their mentality has not grasped that the bull in the China shop is ( no pun intended) CHINA. Their aim is to be the leader of the world, the Alpha male, the one nations all others answer to.
I think Russia might have a similar stance, but China is steadily moving, B.S.ing the globalists.
Just look at their belt road initiative and their presence in the continent of Africa.
China was subjugated, humiliated by Western and even other Asian nations. When they came out from under that yolk, they started to and are still ascending on the world stage and will answer to no nation.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@soar2newhighs you are right. proved time and time again. they have stealthily taken our lands, our trade secrets while we have watched. they own us lock, stock and barrel. who do we borrow from? China
akindheart · 61-69, F
nope it is not that simple. i think it is 2 bad countries but in this case, russia needs to back off.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@ididntknow i know they are into money laundering. i know they are not on the up and up but that doesn't mean that russia should invade.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@akindheart I guess you didn’t do any digging, stick with what you know, no problem
akindheart · 61-69, F
@ididntknow i have covid and i am deathly ill so NO i didn't do any digging. i will stick with what i know. thanks
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@ididntknow] this whole mess boils down too one person putin
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
On facts I back Ukraine but the billions of dollars we gave them pisses me off. Our economy is in the fucking toilet and we are backing a shitty government against another shittier government with taxpayers money.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@FreeSpirit1 anything given should be considered a usa government loan. Interest should be no less than what the SBA charges a business. Currently 14.4 %
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
@FreeSpirit1 joe is between a rock and a hard spot with Ukraine 🙂
No it is NOT that simple. Let the Ukrainians and Russians work it out.
The U.S. has meddled in Ukraine. We need to step back from our involvement with Ukraine. We’ve spent billions on them.,what has it accomplished?
Let a peace treaty be done!!
Fuck Ukraine
Fuck Russia
Fuck nato
Fuck the US industrial war machine
But most importantly.
Fuck the media for enabling all these sons of sluts
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
People tend to forget that Russian citizens are as much victims as Ukrainian citizens.

I wish the leaders just met in a boxer ring and got it over with. The one who lose gets to buy the other a drink. Done. No one else hurt. World Peace

I'm not pro or against Russia I'm against [i]war[/i]
ArtieKat · M
Why is it that so many conservative Americans have their heads stuck so far up their own arses that all their orifices are chock-full of shit, precluding any rational thought?
Ontheroad · M
Look, Russia invaded Ukraine, end of story. All the BS in the world can't change that. Russia (Putin/the regime) is bad. That's it, period.
@Ontheroad nobody knows anything bout no NATO advance. You da bomb, Murka! Nobody shall survive you. No way to reason with you. Peace is off your table but you can kill the ecosystem and you are. Lolz! We love Americans.
No one is saying Ukraine is a perfect country perfectly run (show us a country that is, O all ye complainers).

But yes, actually 🇺🇦
MartinII · 70-79, M
No, it means that one country shouldn’t make an unprovoked invasion of another. It really is that simple.
Not really. That's just what the US regime says through its megaphone, the internet.
SW-User
They are both sovereign nations. Russia invaded the Ukraine. Yes it's that simple.
Haven’t seen much “right” from Russia. Have you?
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@Adeptlinguist Where do you look, who or what informs you ?
chibs · 61-69, M
Mindful · 56-60, F
You really do have great ideas
GovanDUNNY · M
Putin is a psycho nut job

 
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