Russian sources say:

@Bumbles None of them are the starters of this war. This was started by the American neocons and their stupidity. Russia did not invade until after 7 years of provocation and slaughter by the Ukrainian nazis. The people in the region were all asking what was taking Russia so long in moving to protect them. Sadly you have been fed a pack of lies and want to believe them.

@hippyjoe1955 These are all rationalizations for being pro-Putin.

@Bumbles Not being pro Putin. I am anti war. HUGE difference. Not sure what is wrong with you that you get swept up into hysterias but it seems you do. Let me guess you were terrified of covid as well. How many jabs did you take?

@hippyjoe1955 You have can’t be anti-war and anti-Putin. That’s Orwellian.

@Bumbles You are right. Putin is on the side of peace. Biden is on the side of war.

@hippyjoe1955 Nuff said…

@Bumbles Yeah and you are on the wrong side again. Kind of sad. I feel sorry for folks like you who see the world in such black and white terms. :"Putin Bad" is the depth of your research and understanding.

@hippyjoe1955 I have been following pretty closely and also dug into the history of the region and Putin. Also have a degree in history. And yes, Putin Very Bad indeed.

@Bumbles NO you haven't. You simply echo CNN. Putin Bad. You really need to expand your sources of information. He is a bit of information you might find interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0WQ64UD2Lg

@hippyjoe1955 I don’t watch CNN.

@Bumbles Go watch the video I linked. The people talking are not American.

@hippyjoe1955 10 mins in, and so far it’s just rot. Thank you, however.

@Bumbles Your loss. These folks destroy your beliefs. Sucks to be you. Enjoy your ignorance. Don't be surprised when what I say is going to happen happens.

@hippyjoe1955 I don’t think they destroy my beliefs because I don’t idealize “the west” in the way these folks would presume. Nothing said on this video (I did watch at a few places but did not watch all 50 minutes) changes my knowledge Putin is indeed, very bad.

Ms. Khalek reminds me of a college freshman on her first trip home where she confronts her parents on their bourgeois life!

@Bumbles Yeah they do. You simply have not opened your mind to the possibility that your side could be wrong. This war is the result of America being a bully. People around the world know this and the US is the one losing face across the globe. You are oblivious these facts. The US is no longer on the side of good.

@hippyjoe1955 Yeah man, just expand your mind! Well, that’s the hippy in you, I suppose.

My mind will indeed had to “expand” to volumes unknowable for me to conclude, as you do, that “Putin in the side of peace.”

@Bumbles I'm not a hippy. I am someone who looks at both sides and looks for the best way forward. If Russia prevails the war ends at the Dnieper River. IF the US prevails the war expands to Taiwan. If, as I am which side will be the shortest path to peace. It certainly isn't the warmongering USA. The US has had 215 interventions in other nations since 1991. Russia has had 5.

@hippyjoe1955 Okay, your name has hippy in it, so you’ll forgive my assumption.

It seems you’re a pacifist, with the notable except of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, and I presume his treatment of the Ukrainians and his internal enemies.

As I said, you are Pro-Putin, but there are Neo-Nazis, and Neo-Stalinists too. So it goes…

@Bumbles I am not a pacifist. Pacifism is a path to war. I am for international neutrality. What Russia does in Russia is up to Russia. What Ukraine does in Ukraine is up to Ukrainians. If a part of a nation wants to separate and bei its own nation or part of another nation that is up to the people of the region. I am also against those who provoke wars such as is the US and the UK and NATO. 215 stupid useless interventions by the US in 32 years. The record speaks for itself.

@hippyjoe1955. Odd, you routinely rationalize Putin’s invasion for how Ukraine treats its own citizens.

@Bumbles Since Ukraine was killing Ukrainians by the 1000s. The region voted to leave Ukraine peacefully since the Ukrainian nazis were shelling them since 2014. The way of peace would have had the eastern portion of Ukraine join Russia as the people voted and Ukraine to leave them alone. However the Ukrainian nazis were being ordered by the US to attack. They had no problem doing that and so after 7 years of provocation and thousands of dead Ukrainians who wanted to be Russian Russia acted. The fault of this war is the US.

@hippyjoe1955 “Russia acted” is the fault of the US. Interesting. You have a unique view of cause and effect. Kind of like blaming the woman for getting beaten up by her husband. “She just didn’t listen!”

@Bumbles Not unique at all. I am echoing what most of the world believes. Sadly the insular Americans can't get their head around the fact that their government has gone rogue. If you doubt that look at who is president and ask how that feeble old man got there. If you believe he got 81,000,000 votes legally......

@hippyjoe1955 Well, you hit the paranoid trifecta: being Pro-Putin, Anti-Vaxx, and Stolen Election!

@Bumbles So you remain ignorant of the damage the vax has done too? Wow you truly are oblivious. Amazing.