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Why there has not been an agreement for a Palestinian state

If your solution to the problem is "get rid of Israel," you can stop reading right here. I'm going to explain why the situation is complicated and what issues would have to be resolved to reach an agreement. This is not about a unified Israeli-Palestinian state either; I'm addressing the obstacles to the two-state solution.

1. Jerusalem: This city has holy sites sacred to Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Any final settlement will have to address access not just by Israelis and Palestinians, but for people from all over the world. The Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa Mosque are built on top of the Second Jewish Temple, so it's not like the area can be divided. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre is also nearby. The city could be placed under the control of an international coalition, but it's unlikely that either side will agree to this.

2. Settlements: Legal or not, there are close to 150 settlements in the West Bank with around half a million residents combined. Dismantling these and moving them into Israel proper would be a much larger undertaking than it was to dismantle the settlements in Gaza in 2006. That doesn't mean it would be impossible, just difficult. The settlers could also be given the opportunity to move on their own or become residents of the future Palestinian state.

3. Borders: Linked to the above concern is where the border between Israel and Palestine would be drawn. The 2003 proposal included land swaps, where settlements close to the Green Line would be part of Israel, while Gaza would get more land to make up for it. This also included a secure highway between the two areas.

4. Refugees: In 1948, around 700,000 Arabs were either expelled from what is now Israel or left voluntarily. Since then, they have been treated differently from any other group of refugees, with their own United Nations agency specifically for them (the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East or UNRWA). They have also been prohibited from becoming citizens of the countries they reside in. The result of this has been to grow their numbers to around 6 million people today as they enter their fourth generation. The "Right of Return" is the demand that they be allowed to return to their homes in Israel as part of a peace agreement. Israel has resisted this as it would end the Jewish majority. Like it or not, sovereign countries are entitled to control who is allowed to immigrate into them for whatever reasons they choose. Past attempts to create a Palestinian state were derailed by this issue.


5. Security: Shortly after Israel pulled out of Gaza, Hamas was elected and began using it as a staging ground for attacks. Understandably, Israel doesn't want to create the same situation in the West Bank. A future Palestinian state would have to be demilitarized. The Palestinian leadership has shown that it either cannot control this violence, or in the case of Hamas, they're instigating it. Occupation of the Palestinian state by Israel would also be unacceptable. One proposal is for a coalition consisting of Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia to provide security for Palestine, with the goal of handing power over to the Palestinians once they demonstrate their willingness to live in peace with their neighbors.

I'm fine with any disagreements with any of the above points as long as they're not just "Israel has no right to exist" or "everything is Israel's fault." I'm also aware that the current Likud government is opposed to a Palestinian state. However, one role the US could play would be to push Israel to work toward solutions to the above obstacles, but that would require not just the cooperation of Israel and the Palestinians, but the surrounding countries as well.
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JSul3 · 70-79
Nothing can be achieved under Netanyahu.
Until he is removed, nothing positive will occur.
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jehova · 31-35, M
@JSul3 good point. We need turn over.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer advocating genocide doent help the conversation. Grow up. Let the adults "in the room" puzzle this one out.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer Please participate but constructively.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova Really?? Number one who has always informed the people well in advance to get out?
Number two, who started this conflict?
Unless you know what you’re talking about, follow this adage; “
It’s better to remain silent and appear a fool,
Than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt!!
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer and my question remains what are these intetests America has.
To waste money?
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova And my answer is, I’m not American.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer ok and America is not Isreal or palestine nor jewish\hamas. Why should it be involved? Additionally America is very very indebted already. Isreal needs to fight and fund its own battles. If America stops sending money will the conflict fizzle out on its own? Obviously continued funding hasnt stopped the fighting.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova If you have never read the book of genesis, this would be a good time to start.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer why would i read some antiquated hearsay. Ppl are inspired to violence by a book of ancient stories. I say again 'be an adult'. Fairytales belong in the past.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova I’ll remember you in my prayers.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer ok thanks and ill try to be rational instead of stuck in the BC or Christian era
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer the 'old testament'. Has old in its name therefore outdated; at the least. Also the statute of limitation is 30 years for a reason. So my question will always remain what happened?;and what justifies the fighting?
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova Which part of it is outdated? I agree, in part it is…
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer i refuse to read texts more than 300 years old.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer are you suggesting its contemporary or modern?
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova Do you have a religious belief?
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova I asked you a question
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer wrote my own its on here. The Oath of Human Citizenship
It started as the Decree of Buddhist Mentalism. During a religious studies class i took in college. The voice in my head; oops, i mean 'G…d' told me (in a booming voice) "write this down."
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova So your saying your a Buddhist?
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer if that helps you understand but no im a Human Rationalist.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova I feel sorry for you.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer the booming voice declared itself as Our Universal Creator (OUC) not as Grandiose OverlorD (GOD)
jehova · 31-35, M
@Quimliqer and im sorry u got tricked by an organization trading a story, bread, and wine. for your money.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
@jehova You’re deceived by the untruth surrounding the Gaza conflict. Why is there no peace there, has hamas came to the treaty table?