Israeli Jews should go back to Europe. What do the psychoanalysts say?
[quote]The notion that Jews are intruders is arguably classic anti-Semitism in that it can be traced back psychoanalytically to the child's relationship with the father vis-a-vis the mother. That is, the view that Jews are intruders is Oedipal in nature.
Keep in mind that 55-60% of Israeli Jews are not European; they are Middle Eastern in origin. They came to Israel not because of European Zionism but because they got kicked out of Arab countries after 1948. I love when people refer to Israelis as "Zionists." Most Jews in Israel are not descended from Zionists!! [/quote]
[i]--Bela Grunberger, "The Anti-Semite and the Oedipal Conflict." (1964) [/i]
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What are you trying to say? You do know that Jews were living in what is now Israel for thousands of years before the Arabs, and that there is evidence of a very advanced Jewish society well before Christ?
@samueltyler2 don’t know what the guy is ranting about, but I will comment on your post.
Just because some jews migrated from Iraq to the area, doesn’t mean that there weren’t people already living there. Civilization predated the Iraqi arrivals.
It is, however what it is. As a human being, and while I want nothing to do with Hamas, I cannot condone Netanyahu’s plan to empty Gaza, by killing all its inhabitants.
@Northwest as to when the people who are now called Jews first came to the area, you need to review your ancient history. You also are incorrect as to the states goals of Netanyahu. I am no fan of his, as far as i am.concerned, he, like his friend in the US, tRump, should both be in jail. But, what he has said, he wants to get rid of all of Hamas. If he wanted to clear Gaza of all its inhabitants, that would have been easy by now, without the loss of his soldiers.
I dislike seeing the civilian casualties, starting, don't forget what started the current conflict, the calculated slaughter of your Israelis attending a music concert, the innocent's slaughtered by atrocities, in their beds and a solemn holiday for Jews.
@samueltyler2 [quote]as to when the people who are now called Jews first came to the area, you need to review your ancient history.[/quote]
I'm pretty solid on that. I suggest you review yours.
[quote] If he wanted to clear Gaza of all its inhabitants, that would have been easy by now, without the loss of his soldiers. [/quote]
At 80-89, it's a bit old to be naive. He's not sending soldiers to clear the civilian population. He's already done that. If you missed it, over the past 90 days or so, he has been ordering the civilian population to MOVE OUT, and this includes all the hospitals and their patients. Please tell me you didn't miss that?
He even tried to ask the civilian population of Gaza to move out into the desert, into the land controlled by Egypt. Egypt drew a line in the sand. If you missed that, I suggest you update yourself.
He sent the infantry, and armor, to battle those who are still in tunnels. He has no other choice. He can't simply leave a Trojan horse. Note that he's bombing the shit out of the place, with no regards to the hostages.
@Northwest wow, you are followed by an amazing road of rhetoric. I will not waste my time. If you are so sure of your history and facts, have a good life! There have been many previous attempts that kill all of the Jews, this is not unique.
@samueltyler2 [quote]wow, you are followed by an amazing road of rhetoric. I will not waste my time. If you are so sure of your history and facts, have a good life! There have been many previous attempts that kill all of the Jews, this is not unique. [/quote]
You're changing the topic, to hide your lack of historical knowledge, by accusing me of advocating the murder of Jews. Kind of weird, advocating killing myself and my family.
The topic was NOT the various attempts to throughout history, to eradicate Jews, that were mostly exclusively committed by people who billed themselves as Western Christians, since the invention of Christianity. That's a FACT. But, you're going for a chicken shit attempt to try to label me.
Ass of which has absolutely not a fucking thing to do with the question of when one branch of Judaism, arrived in the area known as Palestine/Israel, from Iraq (FACT), and the fact that other people already lived there.
@Northwest no need for you to speak nasty, I give up to your enormous knowledge base. I have st have different information than you and it isn't worth my arguing. Archeology isn't an exact science, but it pretty well places the Jewish people in that land well before the Iraqis. Many other countries tried to eliminate the Jews, well before the more recent Christianity and who didn't even exist and until well after the destruction of the Jewish Temples which were located in Jerusalem.
@samueltyler2 [quote]but it pretty well places the Jewish people in that land well before the Iraqis. [/quote]
😂😂😂😂 Seriously dude? You think I'm taking about the current day Iraqis? Jesus Christ dude. 😂😂😂😂
[quote]Many other countries tried to eliminate the Jews, well before the more recent Christianity and who didn't even exist and until well after the destruction of the Jewish Temples which were located in Jerusalem.[/quote]
You don't say. I will add that to my historical repertoire, for sure. But, then again, here's what I actually said:
[quote]The topic was NOT the various attempts to throughout history, to eradicate Jews, that were mostly exclusively committed by people who billed themselves as Western Christians, [b][i][u]since the invention of Christianity[/u][/i][/b][/quote]
There's a context it, learn something about it. It certainly is not the Muslims who over the past couple of millenium who have been trying to eradicate Jews.
Backhanded compliments much?
But do keep moving the goal post, and ignore my original comment and your claims.
