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Trump wants to see the unification of Ireland! Is he just talking rubbish or does history point to unity? Well, as you may know, Trump also was

Responsible for the unification of Germany. Yes, he brought both East and West Germany together by ordering Gandhi, who was traveling on elephant across the English channel, "to tear down this wall!" And it was done with great speed

This is just one example of Trump allowing the Lord to work through him and manifest a devine presence amongst us

Leviticus 26:12 states, "I will walk among you and be your God, and you shall be my people"

Let us pray for this man who ends all wars and who steals from the rich to give to the poor... In God's name
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TheDeathOCuHullainn Best Comment
Reunification of Ireland is an inevitability. Its not an IF question its a WHEN question
@ArishMell Their ignorance of geography speaks volumes. Its not Ulster. Ulster comprises of 9 counties, 3 of which are in the Republic of Ireland. The full 9 counties of Ulster were considered when partition lines were drawn however the gerrymandering wouldn’t have worked so well because it would have made nearly a 50/50 split.

Also Britain is the name of the island next to Ireland. Northern Ireland is not in Britain it is in the United Kingdom.

My point is that it doesn’t matter what relative population other entities have if they do not comprise a significant voting block. Irish Americans do.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@TheDeathOCuHullainn The entire archipelago is the "British Isles", but I agree the formal title is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

I do wonder what would happen if all the secessionists had their way and broke up the United Kingdom, as they want but are reluctant to admit.


The Republic of Ireland is successful in her own right, and would gain the Harland & Wolff shipyard that has just gained an important Royal Naval contract.

Scotland would trade for a few decades on oil and natural gas, and the employment these create, but those are limited and unlikely to last more than a few decades. It may be able to revive or at least protect ship-building. So-called "renewable energy" does provide manufacturing and installation employment but very little operational work. Scotland would need come to some arrangement with England over the RN and RAF bases, and defence-research facilities, in Scotland; and which also provide a lot of employment. This might be as fellow NATO members, or via some non-EU, European equivalent.

Wales still has limited steel-making and I believe one surviving coal-mine but not much other industry apart from farming and tourism.

What they do not air is how they will relate to the rest of the world: the UK is a member of or signatory to, a huge number of international bodies and treaties: UN, NATO, ISO, MarPol, intelligence- and police- co-operations, scientific projects, etc..

Nor do they air how with the loss of admittedly-modest money from Whitehall, they will fund all their own public services: currency and national finances, health & welfare, hospitals, education, transport (vehicle registration and taxing, roads, railways, airports, harbours, public-transport fares subsidies), the emergency services, defence and security, judiciary, prisons and probationary services; and so on.

They may be able to attract the so-called "service industries" - tourism (seasonal, unsociable hours, low pay), taxi-driving, and tapping away on computers in cheaply-built offices. The last employs comparatively few people for the turnover, much of it is foreign-owned and AI may mean far fewer humans in such work.


A united Ireland could survive, even thrive, as an extension of the present Republic - even if you don't care about those citizens who do not want that - but I doubt the other two would.

Southern Scotland would probably manage, but generally the country, geographically related to Scandinavia, would likely see a Scandinavian scale of expense for residents and businesses. Once the oil runs out the enormous area North of the Glasgow - Edinburgh band would likely fade, economically. Its rail links, presently part of the fully-national system, may become too uneconomical North of those two cities and perhaps Dundee. The motorways, perhaps 200 miles of them, would be very expensive for Scotland alone to keep up to scratch. Distance alone would make the country unattractive for industrial investors apart from the "renewable energy" trade, which itself will face an uncertain future with the depletion of its necessary petroleum-derivatives and scarce metals sources.

Wales risks being worse off still. Most industry is around Swansea and Cardiff. The main income in the North is tourism, in an area that is also reputedly the least friendly to the English (while taking their money). It would likely also lose most of its railways, leaving that linking London and Bristol to those two South Wales cities, and along the North coast to Holyhead. It may be able to maintain the M4, which ends just West of Swansea, and create a cost-sharing agreement with England to look after the Severn bridges; but not pay for much else of its very extensive road network. The rest of Wales is primarily agricultural; a very shaky trade even though most people still insist on eating.
@ArishMell I always find that particular slant a peculiar form of Little Englander martyrdom, no offence.

It relies on the argument that the Scots and Welsh are being propped up by the selfless English. That they neither have the intellect nor rigour to successfully govern their own countries.

Saying that I can’t speak too much for what Wales will do. It is unlikely they will chase independence with the same energy the scots have.

Scotland will join the EU and be part of one of the biggest and most powerful trading blocks in the world. I suspect they will do just fine.

val70 · 56-60
Elessar · 31-35, M
He's already reunited the Tyrol

Like anybody cares what he says.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
An interesting point raised in a reader's letter to today's Dorset Echo newspaper

The Republic of Ireland is a member of the European Union.

Uniting Northern Ireland with it would increase the size and wealth of that EU-member nation.

President Trump despises the European Union....


I do not know why Trump is anti-EU but I must admit I'd not spotted that contradiction in this example of his trying to run the rest of the world!
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@ArishMell He just doesn't think things through before he says them. He thought Irish unification would play well to the crowd but he didn't realize that would mean strenghtenin the EU.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@JimboSaturn I agree!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
It's none of the USA's business, especially that of an American President so lacking in international diplomacy and knowledge as Donald Trump.

It is solely a matter for the citizens and governments of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland to decide; and especially for all those in Ulster who do not want to be Eireann.
peterlee · M
Good idea. It should win him votes in November. He can then forget the idea and move on elsewhere.

Why not take the Silly Isles by force, he can have the capital of the USA there.

I suspect he is interested in the oil off the Falklands. His Israeli friends are already drilling there.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@peterlee The Israeli oil-prospecting is in partnership with a British company.
peterlee · M
@ArishMell This is interesting, in view of the UK not sanctioning further development of its North Sea Oil fields. at the moment.
And current UK policy is distancing itself from the Israeli government.

I bet though, Trump’s interest is Oil.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@peterlee Oil is Argentina's interest too, but so are Trump's activities everywhere.
AdmiralPrune · 46-50, M
He can’t unify the US, never mind anywhere else.

The orange golfer from Florida is just another tourist.
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
More importantly, he united the entire world in concluding he is a complete and utter prat 😌
Adrift · 61-69, F
Honestly, I have stopped paying attention to him because everything thing he is saying is like he is putting on a performance.
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