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I have had enough peopling in the city for today.

My brain picks up everything that is wrong and dismantles the causes, and curses itself for the solutions being collective.

Ha.

People are easier to force to do the right thing, if you strategically place them in a position of fear or desire.

That also means they are easier to become traitors. They will betray what they fear when something of a greater danger steps into the game. Same applies to desire.

True goodness comes with conviction, nothing less.

But collective conviction can't be created within years or even a single life time. It can take a century and many generations sharing a common vision of collective responsibility.

I admit a revolution is still a revolution even if it has failed..Yet there comes a time when one must understand a successful one is the only form of revolution worth fighting for. And it starts within..it may die along the way but not without merits.

I think of this because I am surrounded by garbage.

Filth is everywhere, in human form too.

And it smells like rotten souls.
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TinyViolins · 31-35, M Best Comment
I think about this a lot with people continually calling for political revolution in America, or maybe to somehow usurp capitalism, because there's almost no thought whatsoever given to what comes after. They just want to burn it all down and hope a phoenix jumps out of the ashes.

People need conviction to fully execute a revolution. They need to have a shared vision of what they're working towards. What their sacrifice will mean. Otherwise they're just slaves to their passions and we end up no better than we were before.

I've always said that hate is a more powerful emotion than love. People don't go to the same extremes in the name of love than they will in the spirit of hate. Some think hate is the offspring of fear. In either case, people need an enemy if they need to be motivated to action.

And while things might have gotten incrementally better over each generation, either through ink or through blood, most people still wind up being the same stupid, selfish, and lazy creatures trampling others in pursuit of their own satisfaction. I don't know if you can convince an entire population of people to hate their own carelessness. To convince them to do the work needed to build a better society by becoming better people.

Gil Scott-Heron, an American poet, once famously wrote that "the revolution will not be televised" in order to convey that you can't film the internal change and mental transformations that people need to make in order to make revolution possible. A true revolution will be one of conviction, of individual actions that coalesce into a force for social change.

How long until that critical mass is reached is beyond me. It can be incredibly frustrating and exasperating to feel like one is waiting in vain. It's far easier to give up hope.

All people can really do is to put their message out there and to try to hold others accountable. I should take the time now to let you know that I do appreciate your attempts to do this. I've never been good at doling out praise, but your words do leave an impact on my soul. Hopefully it's one less rotten one you have to encounter
Miram · 31-35, F
@TinyViolins I am going to respond to this tomorrow. I did write a detailed reply but I fell asleep before sending it. I will type again tomorrow
Miram · 31-35, F
@TinyViolins

People do dream of burning everything and waiting for a phoenix, many times out of frustration , so do I at times but fire alone doesn’t create renewal. Most of the time it just leaves ash, and the same vultures return.

When corruption runs through the crowd as much as the rulers, the revolution isn’t only about toppling a system. It’s about breaking habits that feel like human nature. That’s the real difficulty. And of course building prepherals to fall on when the system fails.

Hate can ignite, yes, but it cannot sustain. A mob can tear down, yet not build. What survives is conviction tied to discipline, circles of trust that refuse to rot even when everything around them does. That isn’t spectacle worthy, and it doesn’t feel like victory which is why people don't pursue it. It doesn't get anyone a dopamine kick ..But it’s the only ground worth building on.

The revolution ScottHeron spoke of, the one that won’t be televised, is exactly that, people rehearsing integrity in small ways until it becomes a reflex.. inwards. sometimes the systems are too strong, too entrenched, too defended against change. In those cases, the work doesn’t vanish, it just shifts. You build wells, not oceans. You carry antidotes, not armies. You think in decades instead of days..
And without a doubt, it might take centuries. That’s the part no one wants to hear. But centuries made out of individual lives refusing to surrender to the rot is magnificent enough, including you as an individual. One person holding their line. One circle that doesn’t betray. One artifact left behind that proves not everyone was corrupted. That is how decay is outlasted, slowly, invisibly, until one day the weight tips.

So maybe the real question isn’t whether we can convince an entire population to hate their own carelessness and rottness. Maybe it’s whether enough people can practice a different way of living, long enough, that corruption eventually becomes the thing that looks foolish..not fire.. boring stone, laid over lifetimes.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Miram I really like that last line of stone laid over lifetimes. It's like that saying, where society grows great when old people plant trees in whose shade they'll never sit in. Looking to the future is really what it should be all about. Our species has a biological imperative to continue, and our best chances of doing so, for the sake of all our progeny, is to build a world free of the societal ills and institutional rot that plagues our current one. Tearing things down simply leaves everybody with less.

I think you can get a lot of people on board with that argument. To harness people's love of their children or young relatives, and realize that every child should be loved and cared for the same. I doubt you can extrapolate that into a universal kind of love. It's easier to defend that which poses no threat to you.

But the principles underlying it, like kindness, patience, caring, respect, etc., would best be shown by example. And that would benefit so many more people. Maybe it could lead to reframing our view of others, by seeing them as somebody's child. Realizing that whatever harm you inflict on someone, you also inflict it on their parents. It's a stretch, but the more we can do to humanize people the better. It's like Gandhi said (sort of, we're paraphrasing) "be the change you wish to see in the world".

I've often noticed that when people think about what changes they'd like to see, they tend to focus on others. They come at the problem by arguing over who should be doing what. Their solutions are in the form of directives. And for many that seems straightforward from a practical sense, but people by and large are not practical. They merely respond to whatever their incentives are. If there is no reward for doing things a certain way, or punishment for not doing something, most people will simply choose the way that's most convenient to them.

This inevitably paves the way for instant gratification. If that dopamine kick you mentioned isn't there, many simply aren't interested. People want ideas that are simple to digest, that appeal to their biases, that require them to do as little as possible. This way of thinking is saturated throughout the internet, with people so easily believing and behaving like ideology is more important than truth. That dogmatism is more important than perspective. That righteousness comes from identity rather than from action. It turns closed-mindedness into a virtue. People are basically colonizing morality and claiming it as theirs alone. It's hard to convince people to get off that sanctimonious high.

The problem becomes worse when you have pundits and public commentators and various groups who can easily take advantage of this sentiment. It's invariably a self-sustaining propaganda machine. And when they can identify areas of anger and desperation, it becomes a galvanizing force towards specific political causes. Authoritarian dictators have always relied on promising rapid results to justify their uses of force and violence to take over institutions for themselves and eliminate any checks against their power. This invariably leaves war as people's only recourse, which may make society better in the long run as they begin to actively seek peace, but it demands a very high human cost before that.

Ultimately, you're right, people need a better way of thinking. Something more critical, more honest, less immediately gratifying. Something more difficult, which goes against many people's nature. How you get there in today's social media landscape is an incredibly fraught proposition. I don't know how you can achieve it within the existing institutions. They are so deeply entrenched and resistant to change.

Maybe the moral arc of the universe will eventually bend towards justice. I'd like to have faith that people's capacity for reason can at least make cracks within their existing ideologies, but the systems are so overwhelmingly present that you're always competing against a cacophony of other voices each seeking to stroke the egos of their audience in exchange for unquestioning loyalty. I'm not sure what else can be done besides planting seeds and hoping they grow into the trees whose shade we'll never sit in.

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Miram · 31-35, F
@Thevy29 Careful, this villain keeps an updated list.

Hope yours is going wonderfully.

 
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