bouquiniste · 26-30, MNew
I'm not particularly religious, but there is a lot of evidence that he did exist.
For instance, The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written c. AD 116).
For instance, The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written c. AD 116).
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BlueSkyKing · M
@bouquiniste I’m aware of the alleged independent sources of mentioning Jesus in the second century. Tacitus referred to someone name Cristus not Jesus. No other details.
SparkleLeaf · 51-55, T
@Diotrephes There is historical evidence that Christianity itself at least existed for 300 years or so before the Romans got into the game. Constantine did in fact use Christianity to control the people, setting in place a motif of the church-state alliance screwing us over that continues to this day. A couple hundred years before that, Rome was persecuting Christians. The movement didn't just pop into existence out of the ether, it was founded by someone. That someone was named Yeshuah. We don't know a lot about him. He was apparently a charismatic speaker who founded a doomsday cult and emphasized charity and compassion. The sparse first and second century writings that mention him and were not written by his followers are not complementary. They saw him as quite mad and his teachings ad dangerous. The bottom line is that he did exist but was no messiah. In that sense he was not so different from Marshall Applewhite, Jim Jones, David Koresh, and others.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SparkleLeaf Thanks for your perspective.
Matt85 · 36-40, M
There are thousands of manuscripts that attest to the existence of Jesus, including New Testament manuscripts, non-Christian sources, and other ancient documents.
BlueSkyKing · M
@Matt85 Cite the sources.
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@BlueSkyKing The Paul character created the Jesus character and he even says in the Bible that it's just a BS fairytale designed to convert the dummies to believe in his BS.