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What is the fundamental belief system of Christianity? And how is it at it's very core hypocrisy?

What is the fundamental belief system of Christianity? And how is it at it's very core hypocrisy? What is an essential part of it's very center of what they believe? It is Jesus Christ as your savior. That is their core belief. That is the foundation of their belief system. Jesus Christ is our savior from our sins. The foundation is their belief that if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your savior from your sins you shall perish. You shall suffer in hell.

You cannot say that only a few or that not all Christians believe this to be true. You must believe this. You must have faith that this is true. This is the will of God. Otherwise you are not a Christian. You are not a believer in Jesus Christ.

And this is why Christianity in its essence represents evil. In that the existence of hell is a part of the very center of their belief system. At the very center of their belief is that you should suffer you must suffer eternal damnation if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your savior from sin. And this is the epitome of hypocrisy of betrayal of abandonment of everything of every belief they hold. They deny themselves of their very salvation by condemning those who do not believe. They condemn themselves to the greatest of all sins. The damnation of others the suffering of others.

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Adstar · 56-60, M

[quote]It is Jesus Christ as your savior. That is their core belief. That is the foundation of their belief system. Jesus Christ is our savior from our sins.[/quote]

Nope.. The Core belief as far as salvation goes is that the Atonement of the LORD Jesus saves us from the Eternal [c=4C0073][big]PENALTY[/big][/c] we face because of our sins...

No one who becomes a Christian is saved from sinning.. No one stops sinning, Christian or Non- Christian..

[quote]And this is why Christianity in its essence represents evil. In that the existence of hell is a part of the very center of their belief system.[/quote]

Yes Hell is a part of the Christian belief system.. But your disagreement with it does not make it evil.. It's only your expression of your personal opposition to Hells existence.. And you being a mere human being are not perfect and therefore your personal judgement regarding Hell only stands in your own faulty mind..

[quote]They deny themselves of their very salvation by condemning those who do not believe.[/quote]

We give [c=4C0073][u]WARNING[/u][/c] of God's Condemnation if one is not justly forgiven their sins.. God is the judge.. We Christians are mere messengers of GOD's Judgement. Christians will not be casting anyone into the Eternal Lake of Fire.. The Angels will be doing that..

Again disagreement with God does not prove the Non- existence of God and the disagreement with God does not force God to change His actions or His eternal plan,, Which includes the Eternal Lake of Fire..

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SW-User

@Adstar Hi, if you referred to the book I have persistently spoken of you will see your position here refuted. Mr Hart DOES NOT build a theology on one verse, or even two, but upon the entire New Testament text. And does it in great detail over Four deep meditations on the nature of God, Judgement, the Human Person and Human Freedom.

Just look at your own last statement... You simply PRESUME there will be names not found in the Book of Life. Again, you presume the Lake of Fire is itself eternal, which involves the understanding of the original Greek words used in the NT for time, or an "age".

Mr Hart knows the Greek language in which the NT was written, and is not deceived by "ever and ever" and suchlike.

SW-User

@Adstar I will repeat once more. Read Mr Hart's book.

Until you do, consider our discussion at an end.

Unless you begin a post with " OK, I have now read the book" I will no longer respond.

Thank you.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@SW-User Yeah our discussion has come to an end i have given you the truth and you are responsible for your response to the truth and now face judgement because of it.. I hope you eventualy embrace the truth and are saved from the Eternal Lake of fire..

SW-User

See my previous thread "The two greatest commandments", here repeated:-

According to the Word, the two greatest commandments are found in the NT Gospels.

The short version: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour the same as you love yourself’ (Matthew 22:37-39)

Here is a short extract from a book on Universalism regarding these two greatest commandments:-

Having quoted those commandments, it is said that from the position of those who insist upon the existence of a hell of eternal torments these commandments present an irresolvable contradiction:-

..[i].. I think an honest interrogation of our consciences, if we allow ourselves to risk it, tells us that this is a contradiction that cannot be conjured away by yet another flourish of specious reasoning or bad dialectics. Can we truly love any person (let alone love that person as ourselves) if we are obliged as the price and proof of our faith, to contemplate that person consigned to eternal suffering while we ourselves possess imperturbable, unclouded and unconditional everlasting happiness? Only a fool would believe it.... It is a picture that demands of us that we ignore the contradiction altogether. It also demands that we become - at a deep and enduring level - resolutely and complacently cruel.
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sascha · F

What is the problem? Only children become upset when they are told that if they misbehave, they will not be getting their special treats.

Tell me why you would be upset at being rejected or possibly punished for not believing in a God that, to you, is not real.

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NativePortlander1970

@sascha LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄 Bullshit

NativePortlander1970

@sascha

[media=https://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo]

sascha · F

@NativePortlander1970 Comments aside, the video you have included is interesting. His sentiments are not unreasonable. Evil exists, and it hurts people. The natural conclusion to me is that God did create evil, either before or as a consequence of creating free will. Evil is horrible, and things mentioned in this interview are horrible. But, how could we appreciate and recognize good if we could not recognize bad? Perhaps God is unkind a fair amount of the time, but perhaps we misunderstand what "good" is.

What is paradise if it's all we ever know?

@SW-User What are you trying to say? Can you comment on anything specific to the Bible? Why am I supposed to care about what supposed "devout Christians" say in their personal works on universalism, which many Christians reject?

Where did I imply I have profound insight? There are lots of people in the world, and many of them appear to comprehend the Bible. These are my observations. At least 30% of the world is Christian.

Saying that you do not understand seems quite reasonable when that is what I am being presented with. Explain further, in your own words, why you think I am mistaken.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@James25
According to Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, the core belief of Christianity should be that the Jesus character was resurrected from the dead. IOWs, the religion is based on a zombie.

1 Corinthians 15:1-58
https://biblia.com/bible/niv/1-corinthians/15

SW-User

@Diotrephes They are your "others words", not Pauls.

"We are what we understand"

Happy Christmas!

"In my Father's house are many mansions"

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@SW-User [quote]They are your "others words", not Pauls.

"We are what we understand"

Happy Christmas!

"In my Father's house are many mansions"[/quote]

I suppose the Jesus charater is technically a lich but what will you be when you pop out of your grave other than a zombie? What do you think will be the first thing you would want to do when you pop out of your grave? Take a bath, get something to eat, wear some new clothes, or have sex?

Since Christmas isn't a biblical holiday, why do you observe it if you are a Christian? Do you worship Jesus as the king of the Jews? If so, why do you give others gifts instead of giving them to him?

Well, the gaudy bejeweled golden Cube New Jerusalem does have a volume of 3,375,000,000 cubic miles so you shoud be able to cram lots of mansions into it. Of course some won't have window views but there's nothing to look at anyway. Enjoy all of that gold.

sree251 · 41-45, M

You said: "What is the fundamental belief system of Christianity? And how is it at it's very core hypocrisy? What is an essential part of it's very center of what they believe? It is Jesus Christ as your savior. That is their core belief. That is the foundation of their belief system. Jesus Christ is our savior from our sins. The foundation is their belief that if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your savior from your sins you shall perish. You shall suffer in hell."

This is YOUR belief. You asked a question to which you have the answer that condemns YOU to eternal damnation.

If you dislike Christianity, why nurse that aversion for?

Ynotisay · M

Well said. Fear to control behavior. Us vs. Them. And, oh yeah, Love thy neighbor. Unless they believe or live differently.

James25 · 61-69, M

@Ynotisay yes I totally agree

SW-User

@Ynotisay Yes, in fact it was the emperor Justinian who declared that Universalism (the eventual salvation of all) - then quite prevalent - was heretical. We have to suspect his motives. It is now been shown by scholarship that the Church as such has never declared the teaching heretical officially.

The stick is often more effective than the carrot.

Unfortunately the Church, and much Tradition, eventually followed St Augustine, who could not even read the Greek of the New Testament. The man who even declared that unbaptised babies were damned. Even those who still believe in the eternal/perpetual torment of the "unsaved" can now rarely tolerate such a hideous teaching, yet it is quite logical according to their core beliefs.

The whole thing is sad. Desperately so.

Bumbles · 51-55, M

Lots of Christian demonizations don’t believe this.

Renaci · 36-40

It makes Jesus literally pointless. "Oh I'm going to save the people I was going to save to begin with! So I'm just going get killed by dad to condemn the people I was going to condemn anyway!"

James25 · 61-69, M

@Renaci yes that is exactly it. Jesus Christ is just an excuse. Jesus Christ is just a cover for what they themselves want to do.

James25 · 61-69, M

@Renaci and no matter how hard you try to sugar coat it as the will of God or the choice of the non-believer it is they themselves the Christian who want people to suffer in hell

NativePortlander1970

The xtianity we see today is more paulite in doctrine and practrice than the actual teachings of Jesus, it's not so much hypocrisy as it is contradiction. Listen to any radio preacher, they will quote paul and his letters by a ratio of 20 to 1 compared to Jesus and his disciples.

James25 · 61-69, M

@NativePortlander1970 yes that is well. Christian's using their own interpretation to further their own personal agenda for money power and control

NativePortlander1970

@James25 Exactly, Jesus violently upended tables and attacked the vendors themselves for setting up a marketplace in the Temple, while megachurches now have starbucks like coffee shops that sell drinks, treats, and other things, at insane gouging level prices.

NativePortlander1970

A prime example of how xtians can be deceptive and greedy.
[media=https://youtu.be/0GQ1S9v6XXM]

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