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Jonah And The Whale

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And some Scoffers say a person couldn't be swallowed by a whale this one took the man and his kayaking his mouth and then spit him out.

Others say a person couldn't live in the belly of a whale. Guess what the Bible didn't say it was a whale, the Bible said God created a big fish, meaning it was something new and temporary.

Heck, men's technology there are submarines, and all types of submersible crafts, as if God didn't know how and gave man that knowledge, to create something man could live in underwater.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Our news went with "Pinokio"... but I guess someone had to make a comparisson with another fantasy epic. 😅
Charity · 56-60
@Kwek00

Truth is truth and please continue to look at Jonah as fantasy, since you are searching biblical studies and discussions to poke at, have fun!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Charity What part of what you said is truth? Can you back anything up... because all I'm reading is:

And some Scoffers say a person couldn't be swallowed by a whale this one took the man and his kayaking his mouth and then spit him out.

... I guess the whale didn't swallow him then. Whale took the guy with kayak in his mouth and spit him out. 🤷‍♂

Others say a person couldn't live in the belly of a whale. Guess what the Bible didn't say it was a whale, the Bible said God created a big fish, meaning it was something new and temporary.

The others are still not wrong then... weird that these things are even in your post because it doesn't make a coherent case for anything.

Heck, men's technology there are submarines, and all types of submersible crafts, as if God didn't know how and gave man that knowledge, to create something man could live in underwater.

Is this a part of the bible that I missed? Where God created technology so that Jonah could live in the belly of a big fish for a while? Did we miss something, or are you just cooping because you take a fantastical story for reality without any proof of anything.

I'm still scoffing... you didn't give me any reason not too.
Charity · 56-60
@Kwek00 anyone can take someone's words and break them down in ways to support their theories. Like three witnesses see the same event and tell three different stories.

There are so many ways that swallow can be used for instance the news was hard to swallow OR they swallowed their pride OR taking something within a mouth with the "intent / intent" to pass to the esophagus and the first two are not literally taking it into their mouths and passing it through their esophagus down to their stomach. So come again

Naturally nothing could survive in the belly of any animal. As I indicated God made a great fish to hold Jonah to sustain Jonah. You say it's incoherent, so be it to you.

"I didn't say that the Bible said God used the same technology he gave man. I said in layman's terms: if man can do it God can do it better because God gave man the knowledge.

Fantastic story; funny thing is far too many of those fantastic stories science has supported at some point or another that it could happen and life at some point or another shows that it can happen.

Please keep considering them this fantastic stories.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Charity We are talking about a whale, swallowing a person whole. Why even pivot? 😅 Did the text say that the big fish kept Jonah in its mouth? When the doctor tells you to swallow some medicine, do you think that just keeping it in your mouth is enough?

As I indicated God made a great fish to hold Jonah to sustain Jonah. You say it's incoherent, so be it to you.

I'm saying there is no evidence in favor of this idea.
Science however, would not entertain this either... This is more the level of the history channel.
Charity · 56-60
@Kwek00 you are reading with your mind things I didn't say.

I never said the fish kept Jonah in his mouth.

I didn't say science supported the story of Jonah but I will say science has supported that there is a fish large enough to swallow a human and it's called the sperm whale. That it can't be proven by you that it hasn't happened sometime in the past.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Charity That's why there is a questionmark... you probably missed it.

Yes, there were once fish big enough to swallow a man whole. A sperm whale though... at least from what we know of it today, doesn't qualify. Why are you so willfully trying to proof a story that has nothing going for it?
Charity · 56-60
@Kwek00

Reports I've read on sperm will say that sperm whales can swallow humans because they have throats big enough to do so. And you people just totally miss the points but that's fine go right ahead.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Charity Sources for those reports are where exactly?

And you people just totally miss the points but that's fine go right ahead.

Not really... you say that there is proof of something. But you conflate "swallowing" and "taking something in his mouth". Then you say that people say something about a whale, and you post a story about a whale, ... but then you go on saying that the bible has nothing to do with a whale.

If this had nothing to do with the bible and your faith, and someone would use similair techniques to convince you, you would laugh in their faces. But when it comes to your God, you demean yourself by defending an unreasonable position, by being even more more unreasonable. That's the most fascinating thing to this post.
Charity · 56-60
@Kwek00 sir ma'am whichever, the proof is a person can be swallowed by a whale nothing more nothing less.

And why not go on to say that the Bible doesn't say it was a whale the Bible said that God created a big fish. Nothing in the statements are contradictory, simply pointing out the facts.

And no I haven't demeaned myself, there are people who are so negative minded they refuse to see what is written as it is written and read what ever they choose into it.

A sperm whale can swallow a human.

A regular whale can take a human into its mouth with the intent to swallow.

The Bible did not say it was a whale, it said God created a big fish. Which as I have said to others it means he made something entirely new for that purpose and that purpose alone.

And you tell me what I would do and think you don't know not one single thing about me.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Charity So... where are the receipts? Just don't keep saying stuff, proof your point.

And why not go on to say that the Bible doesn't say it was a whale the Bible said that God created a big fish. Nothing in the statements are contradictory, simply pointing out the facts.

You are pointing out that people talk about a whale, but the bible doesn't. Which makes all the whale talk obsolete, because you don't even agree with it. But you defend it anyway.


I know something about you... you are religous and you make bad arguments for your religon.



Toothed whales include sperm whales, beaked whales, killer whales, dolphins, and porpoises. These whales have teeth and actively hunt larger prey such as fish, squid, and sometimes even seals. Sperm whales, for instance, can dive to great depths to hunt giant squid. Their esophagus, although larger than that of baleen whales compared to their body size, is still incapable of swallowing a human whole. Killer whales sometimes prey on other marine mammals but there are no documented cases of them attacking humans in the wild to eat them.

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So in the end, can whales eat and swallow us?

While there are anecdotal stories and rare instances of close encounters, the anatomical and behavioral characteristics of whales make it highly improbable for them to swallow a human whole and digest it. Baleen whales, with their filter-feeding mechanisms, do not possess a throat large enough to swallow large things like humans. Toothed whales have larger throats, but do not exhibit behavior that suggests they would see humans as prey, and their throats are still too small to swallow us whole. Most interactions between humans and whales are peaceful and often driven by mutual curiosity.


SOURCE: https://whalescientists.com/can-whales-eat-and-swallow-humans/