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Do not lay with a man as you would a woman it is an abomination
22-25, F
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CopperCicada · M
The terms in Greek that are translated to mean “homosexuality” actually generally refer to “pederasty”. Men sexually exploiting young boys. Some terms seem to refer to sexual rites performed in pagan temples as part of worship.
Now I know you. You are just continuing to rub Chantou’s face in it. Because that’s the level of personal integrity that you work at.
I’ve seen scant evidence in the Greek that seems to condemn committed monogamous homosexual relationships. You can talk KJV all you want. I don’t accept it. I also don’t accept it as I had 5 years of classics. Sue and Jane making a casserole and cuddling while they NetFlix and chill was not on the radar of any Biblical author. Why do I say that? Because in late Rome they were fucking little boys like it was nothing. It corroborates the language used.
Now I know you. You are just continuing to rub Chantou’s face in it. Because that’s the level of personal integrity that you work at.
I’ve seen scant evidence in the Greek that seems to condemn committed monogamous homosexual relationships. You can talk KJV all you want. I don’t accept it. I also don’t accept it as I had 5 years of classics. Sue and Jane making a casserole and cuddling while they NetFlix and chill was not on the radar of any Biblical author. Why do I say that? Because in late Rome they were fucking little boys like it was nothing. It corroborates the language used.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@CopperCicada the bible says what the bible says I've heard that argument over and over and say again its bs gays trying to justify their perverted lifestyle.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@CopperCicada oh and are y'all whiny snowflake wittle babies gonna report me for this one too
@Mountainlady16 You're the one who started in personally attacking others and then doubled down on it. It's not your opinion you're getting reported for, it's your trolling.
CopperCicada · M
@Mountainlady16 I hope you can see the irony.
A person posts a song and you’re cramping your insides shitting all over while everyone else is like... WTF. She posted a song,
[i]THE HORROR THE HORROR[/i]
At least your outrage has cleared the world of homosexuality. So there’s that.
No. There were queers in ancient Egypt and there are hundreds of examples of homosexuality in animals.
So what is your aim?
A person posts a song and you’re cramping your insides shitting all over while everyone else is like... WTF. She posted a song,
[i]THE HORROR THE HORROR[/i]
At least your outrage has cleared the world of homosexuality. So there’s that.
No. There were queers in ancient Egypt and there are hundreds of examples of homosexuality in animals.
So what is your aim?
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
The original scripture is in Hebrew and not in Greek. You are looking in the New Testament and the scripture she quoted was in the Old Testament. Leviticus 18. And also 20. These were not originally written in Greek.
Israel was to be a Holy nation of Priests.
The original scripture is in Hebrew and not in Greek. You are looking in the New Testament and the scripture she quoted was in the Old Testament. Leviticus 18. And also 20. These were not originally written in Greek.
Israel was to be a Holy nation of Priests.
CopperCicada · M
@Pfuzylogic Yes. But the Septuagint was in Koine, not Hebrew. That is what I looked into, along with the NT, with a teacher.
I think the Septuagint is more pertinent as that was used in Paul’s time. Hellenistic Romans knew Greek if they were educated, not Hebrew.
I think the Septuagint is more pertinent as that was used in Paul’s time. Hellenistic Romans knew Greek if they were educated, not Hebrew.
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
Helping you with your scripture. You got a couple twisted around. The Septuagint was based on the Hebrew not Vice Versa. The Old Testament was excruciatingly clear. If you were gay in Israel it was a capital offense and the offender was executed.
Homosexuality was not tolerated in Old Testament Israel, Period.
Helping you with your scripture. You got a couple twisted around. The Septuagint was based on the Hebrew not Vice Versa. The Old Testament was excruciatingly clear. If you were gay in Israel it was a capital offense and the offender was executed.
Homosexuality was not tolerated in Old Testament Israel, Period.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@Pfuzylogic nor was it in nt Israel
@Mountainlady16 But polygyny was and you claim it was revoked in the New Testament - show me chapter and verse.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@anoriginalgentleman marriage is declared by Paul as between one man and one woman
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Mountainlady16 It's very strange, you claim to be a believer but only believe in the mythology and seem not to be interested in its historical origins of words and their meanings. For one that is religious you sure are superficial but then again someone who goes out of their way to be rude to other people, I expect you to be superficial.
CopperCicada · M
@Pfuzylogic Yes. The Septuagint was based on Hebrew. But it was what people had in their hands at the time of Paul. Yes. The OT was exceedingly clear. But we seem to not observe all of Leviticus for a variety of reasons from culture to scriptural implications of the NT. That is really what’s at hand here.
@Mountainlady16 Wrong. Paul said a pastor should be the husband of one wife. Paul didn't write the law, and his statement wouldn't apply to a non-pastor. Try again. Also, why would he have to specify that if polygyny itself were a sin? Wouldn't he just say no man should have more than one wife?
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
You got the scripture mixed up. The so called justification you made for homosexuality being okay was in Romans and it is a far stretch used by gay pastors to justify their lifestyle. The Old Testament was very clear.
You got the scripture mixed up. The so called justification you made for homosexuality being okay was in Romans and it is a far stretch used by gay pastors to justify their lifestyle. The Old Testament was very clear.
CopperCicada · M
@Pfuzylogic Like I said [i] But we seem to not observe all of Leviticus for a variety of reasons from culture to scriptural implications of the NT. That is really what’s at hand here.[/i]
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
What are you quoting as a reference?
That isn’t the Holy Bible and you aren’t an authority on it and I doubt you asked for the Holy Spirit to be saved.
What are you quoting as a reference?
That isn’t the Holy Bible and you aren’t an authority on it and I doubt you asked for the Holy Spirit to be saved.
CopperCicada · M
@Pfuzylogic You are probably right. I guess if I were saved I would have no questions and total and complete certainty in all things faith.
What I do have certainty regarding is whether I am just dumping on a person or engaging in a noble act.
What I do have certainty regarding is whether I am just dumping on a person or engaging in a noble act.
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
You are attacking someone that has faith in the word with inaccurate exegesis.
Take care how you talk to the saved.
You are attacking someone that has faith in the word with inaccurate exegesis.
Take care how you talk to the saved.
CopperCicada · M
@Pfuzylogic The accuracy of exegesis is a matter of perspective.
I am not attacking someone because of their particular orthopraxy and orthodoxy.
I am challenging someone who believes their religious views are absolute, everyone else’s are wrong, common decency is immaterial— and they can do what they like to another human being, Chantou.
I am not attacking someone because of their particular orthopraxy and orthodoxy.
I am challenging someone who believes their religious views are absolute, everyone else’s are wrong, common decency is immaterial— and they can do what they like to another human being, Chantou.
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
I am saying that what you shared does not conform to mainline Protestant or Catholic or Jewish orthodoxy.
I am saying that what you shared does not conform to mainline Protestant or Catholic or Jewish orthodoxy.
CopperCicada · M
@Pfuzylogic There are believers who believe they are to accept OT law in its entirety as well as NT law. Others believe some parts of OT apply to them, and others only apply to Jews— but of course, also NT law. Others believe that NT law supersedes OT law entirely. There are reasons for that. I’m not the one throwing around OT law here. So it’s not my burden to have to explain why I hold some parts and discard others. I am of the later view. Which is why my comments referred to Greek terminology. You insist the OT is entirely clear. Maybe. I have never gone into the Hebrew. I have had a rabbi explain the Torah actually makes no reference to lesbians. So whatever. It’s really not the apologetics I object to. It’s bashing a young woman for the sheer jollies from what I can tell.
Pfuzylogic · M
@CopperCicada
I don’t see her Post referring to a woman.
It refers to a man. You assigned incorrect scripture to try to “rebuke” her.
The important part of Christian Religon is Salvation and the role of the Trinity in that. It is easy to see incorrect scripture application once you do some serious study on the Holy Bible.
I don’t see her Post referring to a woman.
It refers to a man. You assigned incorrect scripture to try to “rebuke” her.
The important part of Christian Religon is Salvation and the role of the Trinity in that. It is easy to see incorrect scripture application once you do some serious study on the Holy Bible.