No Free Will

I truly believe that there is no free will. This is my reasoning for it:

To me free will means we choose our path/destination in life. Free will would give us the choice to choose to go left or right when a fork appears in our road of life.

However God is supposed to be all seeing and all knowing, which i believe in. So if God is all seeing and all knowing God already k ows which path each of us will take. If God knows which path we will take than we have no free will because God already knows whoch path we will choose.

If you claim that you have free will and your path isn't already chosen than you can not claim that Gos is all seeing and all knowing. And by your point of view, God doesn't know all and see all, which would thus make God cease to exist.

This is of course the most simplest way to state what free will is but if you spent half a second thinking about it you'll realize I'm correct. If you disagree you're either closed minded or too ignorant to think it through

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ravenwind43 · 51-55, F

Or we have free will because even if God knows each step we will take we are still given the choice to take it. The struggle within human nature has much to do with "will."
Interesting post. :)

LordShadowfire · 100+, M

@ravenwind43 But if God knows exactly what the outcome will be at every step, he can arrange things so that our choices lead us to the same place no matter what. And even if he chooses not to, the fact that that possibility exists means we don't have free will.

Livingwell · 61-69, M

@ravenwind43 Yes.. this is what I believe and was taught in college. Interesting question with two answers from how it was explained. We have the choice to make the choices we do. There are predefined paths for each of us but we do choose the path. The second answer as it was explained is that although God is all knowing per the definition of a true God, it does not mean he is controlling your choices. The very fact that one has the choice to follow God or not is proof of this. If we examine Demi Gods, they force people to follow them by force. The one true God does not.

ravenwind43 · 51-55, F

@LordShadowfire So if there is no free will then we should just do whatever we want whenever we want and be as horrible to others as we can. Be a sadistic bastard. Why not?
Most people don't....because they choose not to. They use their free will to try and do the right thing as much as they can.

ravenwind43 · 51-55, F

@Livingwell We choose the path. We choose to do good when human nature says we are self serving. Without free will we would have no ability or understanding to make a choice. 👍