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sree251 · 41-45, M
@LesDawsonsPiano
What has gender identity got to do with human sexuality? The former is a psychological sense of being while the latter is a biological response. What are we? A biological organism or a psychological concept of self? We have no definite answer to this question; and that is the cause of confusion, a state of bewilderment.
Human sexuality is a natural response consistent with that of the birds in the air, the fish in the sea, and all creatures of the earth. None are either dictated to by a Book or a Church; or granted freedom to deviate from the norm.
Our conduct in relationship is never called into question until confusion arises.
Quite right because freedom implies the chaos of random motion, a state of disorder.
As I pointed out, you are mistaken. Human sexual relationship consistent with that of all creatures in nature has divine guidance and predates any man-made book.
Progressivism is a political philosophy that seeks to advance the human condition through social reform. Where do you think you are going?
Possibly, yes, in gender identity.
What has gender identity got to do with human sexuality? The former is a psychological sense of being while the latter is a biological response. What are we? A biological organism or a psychological concept of self? We have no definite answer to this question; and that is the cause of confusion, a state of bewilderment.
This comes from freedom - at last - from being dictated to by those who themselves have been dictated to by a Book or a Church, and a society based loosely upon it. Freedom is dangerous, of course it is.
Human sexuality is a natural response consistent with that of the birds in the air, the fish in the sea, and all creatures of the earth. None are either dictated to by a Book or a Church; or granted freedom to deviate from the norm.
Our conduct in relationship is never called into question until confusion arises.
Confusion will always accompany freedom. That is the way of it.
Quite right because freedom implies the chaos of random motion, a state of disorder.
The answer is not, in my opinion, to try to reconstruct human relationships based upon any book written thousands of years ago, however much we might admire some of its verses.
As I pointed out, you are mistaken. Human sexual relationship consistent with that of all creatures in nature has divine guidance and predates any man-made book.
Forward, not back.
Progressivism is a political philosophy that seeks to advance the human condition through social reform. Where do you think you are going?
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
Well, you see it as "confused". Personally I see little confusion in the gay couples that I know personally.
Possibly, yes, in gender identity. This comes from freedom - at last - from being dictated to by those who themselves have been dictated to by a Book or a Church, and a society based loosely upon it. Freedom is dangerous, of course it is.
Confusion will always accompany freedom. That is the way of it. The answer is not, in my opinion, to try to reconstruct human relationships based upon any book written thousands of years ago, however much we might admire some of its verses.
Forward, not back.
Possibly, yes, in gender identity. This comes from freedom - at last - from being dictated to by those who themselves have been dictated to by a Book or a Church, and a society based loosely upon it. Freedom is dangerous, of course it is.
Confusion will always accompany freedom. That is the way of it. The answer is not, in my opinion, to try to reconstruct human relationships based upon any book written thousands of years ago, however much we might admire some of its verses.
Forward, not back.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LesDawsonsPiano
What made you bring up gay couples and insinuate I see confusion there? And what has gay relationship anything to do with human sexuality of the kind under discussion?
If you see no confusion in your relationship, that is all that matters even if you are hung on the cross and crucified by those who are confused.
Well, you see it as "confused". Personally I see little confusion in the gay couples that I know personally.
What made you bring up gay couples and insinuate I see confusion there? And what has gay relationship anything to do with human sexuality of the kind under discussion?
If you see no confusion in your relationship, that is all that matters even if you are hung on the cross and crucified by those who are confused.
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
@sree251 You said:- "In a culture that is deeply confused about human sexuality, it is time to examine the question of right relationship." (And subsequently to speak of "divine order" with implied allegiance to)
It is a quite natural response that I made.
But again, I have no wish to get into any discussion with you.
I will NOT respond again.
It is a quite natural response that I made.
But again, I have no wish to get into any discussion with you.
I will NOT respond again.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LesDawsonsPiano
Be that as it may, you have already made valuable contribution to this thread. You pointed to an obvious controversy that has caused unhappiness and conflict in society, both in the conservative east, as well as, in the permissive west. More importantly, is the the conflict within, the confusion of self loathing that won't go away even after receiving dispensation from the Pope.
I will NOT respond again.
Be that as it may, you have already made valuable contribution to this thread. You pointed to an obvious controversy that has caused unhappiness and conflict in society, both in the conservative east, as well as, in the permissive west. More importantly, is the the conflict within, the confusion of self loathing that won't go away even after receiving dispensation from the Pope.
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
Oh, just to say, I've said my piece. Not interested in discussion at this time.
Thanks
Thanks
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LesDawsonsPiano
Thank you for even dare to chime in. This is a hot topic, and it burns those on the wrong side of the track.
Oh, just to say, I've said my piece. Not interested in discussion at this time.
Thank you for even dare to chime in. This is a hot topic, and it burns those on the wrong side of the track.
sree251 · 41-45, M
Other animals are not confused, why are we?