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SDavis · 56-60, F
The church teach for some strange reason that Adam and Eve did not have sexual intercourse until after they sinned.
They forget or ignore that God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the Earth right after he created them _ *that was the first commandment.* A commandment he gave them before they sinned.
Quite honestly the church doesn't know how long Adam lived before he sinned, nor can they say as an absolute that Adam did not have children before he sinned, thereby obeying God's first commandment.
They ignore that the fruit from the Tree of Life gave a form of immortality - instant healing from any sickness or disease. As written in Genesis 3:22 when God put them out and he said that they may not eat of the Tree of Life and live forever....... Instead the church will say because it's not written that Adam ate from the Tree of Life, that he didn't...... apparently not long after Eve was created or week or month or so, they sinned. That is guess work, there are things not written directly in Scripture that man just assume this, that, or the other.
Cain did marry someone down the line from The offspring of Adam and Eve. Whether it was their children's children or children's children's children or further back, it was still close kinship. Adam and Eve had many children before Cain & Abel and their children had children and so on. Those offspring migrated in the lands. They had before he sinned - obeying God's first commandment...... Besides when God put the curse on the woman for painful labor that indicates she had already had children and with little to no pain.
But to each their own way of thinking.
They forget or ignore that God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the Earth right after he created them _ *that was the first commandment.* A commandment he gave them before they sinned.
Quite honestly the church doesn't know how long Adam lived before he sinned, nor can they say as an absolute that Adam did not have children before he sinned, thereby obeying God's first commandment.
They ignore that the fruit from the Tree of Life gave a form of immortality - instant healing from any sickness or disease. As written in Genesis 3:22 when God put them out and he said that they may not eat of the Tree of Life and live forever....... Instead the church will say because it's not written that Adam ate from the Tree of Life, that he didn't...... apparently not long after Eve was created or week or month or so, they sinned. That is guess work, there are things not written directly in Scripture that man just assume this, that, or the other.
Cain did marry someone down the line from The offspring of Adam and Eve. Whether it was their children's children or children's children's children or further back, it was still close kinship. Adam and Eve had many children before Cain & Abel and their children had children and so on. Those offspring migrated in the lands. They had before he sinned - obeying God's first commandment...... Besides when God put the curse on the woman for painful labor that indicates she had already had children and with little to no pain.
But to each their own way of thinking.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SDavis So Eve was made from Adams rib. Therefore a perfect DNA match. And a field day for the recessive genes.. That does explain a lot about religious people...😷
SDavis · 56-60, F
@whowasthatmaskedman
I guess you don't believe that medicines come from plants - and most chemicals that they use to create medicines come from plants.
And I know you ignored my comment concerning the fruit of the tree of life and instant healing from disease and sicknesses which includes regressive genes. And once access was denied to that particular fruit of the Tree of Life which represents Jesus all regressive jeans all diseases all sicknesses are here to stay until the destruction of this planet.
Heck even from the scientific point of view there were first.
Are you calling religious people nuts, unlearned, uneducated, believer in fables?
When you see Jesus coming from the sky with his angels you'll be one of the ones screaming alien invasion.
But you really don't care about anything concerning the Bible or the entity we call God, so good by
I guess you don't believe that medicines come from plants - and most chemicals that they use to create medicines come from plants.
And I know you ignored my comment concerning the fruit of the tree of life and instant healing from disease and sicknesses which includes regressive genes. And once access was denied to that particular fruit of the Tree of Life which represents Jesus all regressive jeans all diseases all sicknesses are here to stay until the destruction of this planet.
Heck even from the scientific point of view there were first.
Are you calling religious people nuts, unlearned, uneducated, believer in fables?
When you see Jesus coming from the sky with his angels you'll be one of the ones screaming alien invasion.
But you really don't care about anything concerning the Bible or the entity we call God, so good by
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SDavis I picked one part of your comment and addressed it, hopefully to make one small point without laying waste to your whole post. Its true I have no faith of my own, but if yours brings you comfort I am happy for you. My only point of contention is when someone bypasses logic or science and refutes them in the name of a god who will solve all their problems.. Via Condios..😷
SDavis · 56-60, F
@whowasthatmaskedman no one has bypassed logic or science / I know of no Christian who has bypassed logic or science. Being created from a rib is not literal - it is symbolic. It means male then female of the same genetic codes with a few 3% or less differences and some of those same genes function differently. Both are both in the image of God no other creature on earth has that distinction.
God doesn't solve all of our problems but some he does help with. Hasta luego
God doesn't solve all of our problems but some he does help with. Hasta luego
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SDavis So now some parts of the bible are literal and some arent. Its a slippery slope and who says who gets to choose.....😷
sree251 · 41-45, M
The church did not invent the Adam and Eve story.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SDavis You said: "The church teach for some strange reason that Adam and Eve did not have sexual intercourse until after they sinned."
Do you deny what you said above? It is in your goddam post. The Adam and Eve story found in the Old Testament of the Bible was taken from scripture of Judaism. Leave the church out of this. You need to consult a rabbi about that sexual intercourse.
Do you deny what you said above? It is in your goddam post. The Adam and Eve story found in the Old Testament of the Bible was taken from scripture of Judaism. Leave the church out of this. You need to consult a rabbi about that sexual intercourse.
SDavis · 56-60, F
@sree251
You are one of those vulgar speaking persons I see!
I did not say nowhere in my comment that the church created Adam and Eve as in you initial reply to me.
You don't understand what you read.
My statement was regarding what the church teach.
What you're saying is like saying teachers are the ones that theorized the concept that one and one is two or the the teachers invented word understand.
The church teaches, the church teaches, the church teaches, and I don't need to consult with a rabbi person.
From Christian churches......................... By
https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/when-did-adam-eve-have-sexual-relations
https://pastorbriantubbs.com/was-sex-the-forbidden-fruit-in-the-garden-of-eden/
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/2534/did-adam-and-eve-not-have-sex-in-the-garden-of-eden
Nothing else to say to you - write all you want
You are one of those vulgar speaking persons I see!
I did not say nowhere in my comment that the church created Adam and Eve as in you initial reply to me.
You don't understand what you read.
My statement was regarding what the church teach.
What you're saying is like saying teachers are the ones that theorized the concept that one and one is two or the the teachers invented word understand.
The church teaches, the church teaches, the church teaches, and I don't need to consult with a rabbi person.
From Christian churches......................... By
https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/when-did-adam-eve-have-sexual-relations
https://pastorbriantubbs.com/was-sex-the-forbidden-fruit-in-the-garden-of-eden/
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/2534/did-adam-and-eve-not-have-sex-in-the-garden-of-eden
Nothing else to say to you - write all you want
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SDavis You said: "My statement was regarding what the church teach."
Let's take a step back and review what my misunderstanding is. You were presenting what you view as a teaching of the church with regard to Adam and Eve. Do we have agreement on this?
I am a religious person. You seem to be one also. There is no way I can be vulgar let alone be vulgar towards you.
Let's take a step back and review what my misunderstanding is. You were presenting what you view as a teaching of the church with regard to Adam and Eve. Do we have agreement on this?
I am a religious person. You seem to be one also. There is no way I can be vulgar let alone be vulgar towards you.
SDavis · 56-60, F
@sree251
Your words to me were "it's in your Goddamn post". Using vulgarity and without a cause.
And my initial statement I used the words the church teach and I fail to see how that could be misconstrued as the church inventing.
And I noticed you use the word god combined with the word damn. Several decades ago when I was a teenager I changed my vocabulary to gotd___. It seemed to me then as do now that using the title God with d___ is using one of his titles in vain / are trying to invoke a curse on someone.
But I guess most people still do say godd___!
Your words to me were "it's in your Goddamn post". Using vulgarity and without a cause.
And my initial statement I used the words the church teach and I fail to see how that could be misconstrued as the church inventing.
And I noticed you use the word god combined with the word damn. Several decades ago when I was a teenager I changed my vocabulary to gotd___. It seemed to me then as do now that using the title God with d___ is using one of his titles in vain / are trying to invoke a curse on someone.
But I guess most people still do say godd___!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SDavis You said: "Your words to me were "it's in your Goddamn post". Using vulgarity and without a cause."
Ok, I apologize and will not use any swear words when talking to you in future. Also, this is a Christianity forum, and sensitivity on my part is expected when conversing with Christians.
Oftentimes, Christians are attacked and berated in forums for Christianity. I come here to confront critics of Christianity.
Ok, I apologize and will not use any swear words when talking to you in future. Also, this is a Christianity forum, and sensitivity on my part is expected when conversing with Christians.
Oftentimes, Christians are attacked and berated in forums for Christianity. I come here to confront critics of Christianity.