Apostate Christianity: Second Coming

The Bible never indicates that Jesus would return in physical form, but that he would return his attention back to Earth, where he would be in spirit. Jesus' return is often thought to be in the physical form of a man, but scripture never speaks of his return in such a manner.

What about John 14:19; Matthew 24:30; Mark 13:26: Luke 21:27 and Revelation 1:7?

John 14:19 - Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Jesus was telling his disciples that the world would see him no more because he would be put to death, but they would see him again because he would be resurrected and he would resurrect them in spirit upon their deaths. The verse has nothing to do with his return to Earth at some distant future date. Paul later confirms this by saying that, in spirit form no man has seen Jesus and none will, unless they be changed into spirit form. (1 Timothy 6:14-16; 2 Corinthians 5:14; 1 Peter 3:18)

At Matthew 24:30 the Greek word horao is translated "see" but can also mean to discern. A Greek-English Lexicon, by Liddell and Scott, says of horao says: "metaphorically, of mental sight, discern, perceive." (1948 edition, pages 1244, 1245). This metaphorical perception can also be confirmed by Paul's use of horao at Romans 1:20 where things are invisible yet perceived.

Clouds, like those mentioned in the verses given by the SAB are typically used in a symbolic sense to signify the presence of God (Isaiah 63:9: 1 Kings 8:10-12)

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LadyGrace

Do you know what the word [i]Christian[/i] means? It is a follower of Christ. You claim to follow Christ, yet you call Christianity, apostate. If you're a Christian, you would not make fun of Christianity and yes, the Bible does say that we shall SEE Jesus at His 2nd Coming. He'll be in His Spirit body, yes, but we'll still see Him. The second coming of Jesus will be literal. He will return bodily, in the same, resurrected, glorified body in which He ascended to heaven.

“After He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them. They also said, ‘Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? [b][c=BF0000]This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come IN JUST THE SAME WAY as you have watched Him go into heaven'” (Acts 1:11).[/c][/b]

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AkioTsukino · M

@LadyGrace [quote]Hey, here's one of your famous quotes:[/quote]

Only famous with you, LG.

[quote]That's a big red flag, when you claim to be a Christian. That's the language of the devil.[/quote]

Is it. What did Jesus ride into Jerusalem on? Language of the devil! Nonsense. Only an idiotic ideologue religious superstition.

The Bible is full of examples of such use of language. Ass, shit, bastard, fuck, piss, damn, hell and god damn. All used in the Bible.

LadyGrace

@AkioTsukino [quote]The Bible is full of examples of such use of language. Ass, shit, bastard, fuck, piss, damn, hell and god damn. All used in the Bible[/quote]

May God have mercy on your soul for such evil blasphemy against God and His Word.

AkioTsukino · M

@LadyGrace Ass:

If you propose a word spoken is, in a language, obscene, as you accuse me in your above quote where I use ass, then of course the words aren't going to be the same in the original or any other language. The word ass (Equus asinus; Hebrew, chamohr′; ʼa‧thohn′, “she-ass”; ʽa′yir, “full-grown ass”; Greek. o′nos; o‧na′ri‧on, “young ass”) the Bible, of course, has many verses on the ass. Contextually they refer to the animal. But in meaning an ass can also be a foolish person, which the Bible also has many verses which people are referred to as ass. They didn't have the same metaphorical reference to that specific animal. The modern term ass as I used it was a reference to the buttocks. Isaiah uses a similar comparative reference to that portion of the anatomy at Isaiah 20:4. There are all sorts of references to the anus and rectum, which could accurately be translated in the context I used the modern day slang you quoted.

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Piss: 1 Samuel 25:23, 34; 1 Kings 14:10; 16:11; 21:21; 2 Kings 9:8.

"Strong’s Hebrew and Aramaic Dictionary of the Old Testament has the following as entry #H8366: “שָׁתַן shâthan, shaw-than’; a primitive root; (causatively) to make water, i.e. urinate:—piss.” In other words, “piss” is a valid translation of the underlying Hebrew text of the King James Bible Old Testament. "

https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.org/2017/08/17/pisseth-against-the-wall/

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I'm not going to go on with a detailed lesson on the subject. Shit is another word for dung, and other words which mean the same thing, like dungy idol, filthy idol, bake a cake on the excrement of man, filth hole etc. Bastard appears in older translations, and means the same as illegitimate child, fuck means, in modern English "laying or throwing down of seed." Jesus and the disciples who wrote the Bible used the equivalent term in Greek katabole which means "laying or throwing down of seed." In reference to the founding of the world. Paul also used the same word in reference to Abraham and Sarah's first conceiving a child. Hell, of course, comes from the Hebrew sheol/Greek hades. Christians like to use that one. It means grave. In England bloody is a "curse" word, but in the Bible blood is sacred. It is the soul of any living, breathing animal. Damn just means curse. If God cursed Adam that is God cursed, or God damned. It isn't using God's name in vain because God isn't a name. God's name is Jehovah.

Learn your Bible instead of fake pagan myth and fables and you would already know all of this.

Matt85 · 36-40, M

Are you Christian, friend?

AkioTsukino · M

@Matt85 Why do you ask? You would have to define Christian. If you mean do I follow the teachings of Christ, am I of the discipline, or a disciple, of Christ, the answer would be yes. If you mean do I follow the traditional apostate creeds of Pagan worshipers like Constantine, and the Greek philosophy of the trinity from Plato, immortal soul from Socrates, Hell from Dante and Milton, Cross from Tammuz and Constantine, Christmas from Saturnalia and Dickens, Easter from the fertility goddess Astarte and the rapture from Darby then no. I'm not a Christian.

LadyGrace

@Matt85 Obviously not. He makes fun of Christians, lies about them and Christianity, and teaches false doctrine.

LadyGrace

@Matt85 Think not? Just look at his reply to me:

[quote]"When I read your words I think you believe in a vile corruption of the Bible. How it deceives you and most Christians is remarkable. What is more remarkable is how they love their beliefs and the traditions of men more than anything. Even more than Jesus. More than God. More than everlasting life."[/quote]

Is that the mark of a Christian? Hardly. In fact, he calls Christianity apostate. How much clearer could it be that he is against Christians/Christianity, and when I pointed out that his scripture was wrong, he couldn't take it so he came back with that nasty reply. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

Adstar · 56-60, M

[quote]The Bible never indicates that Jesus would return in physical form[/quote]

So then you must not believe Jesus assended into heaven in His physical body?

The Holy Bibl;e states that Jesus was raised from the dead in His physical body and later in that same physical body was raised into heaven being witnessed by the apostles.. And an angel told them that in like manor Jesus would return one day..

(Acts 1:9-11) "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. {10} And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; {11} Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?[u] this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven[/u]."

So you do not believe much in the Words of the Bible do you... You do not believe in Hell nor do you believe that Jesus will return in a physical body.. Why do you reject the Word of God?

SDavis · 56-60, F

1 John 3:2 beloved now are we the sons of God, and it doeth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him,**or we shall see him as he is.**

How true we don't know what he actually looks like

Thodsis · 51-55, M

The AI has broken.

Try turning it off and then on again. :)

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