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The ultimate penalty for sinners is to spend eternity in Hell. Many struggle with wrapping their mind around the concept of Hell. But let me say this,

God is love. Wouldn't you say that the love of God passes all understanding? Ephesians 3:17-19 says, "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God."

God's wrath is the same way, It passes all understanding. No one has love like God has. God is the ultimate in love and He is also the ultimate in vengeance. True love must also hate evil and sin, otherwise it is a fake love. Romans 12:9 says, "Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."

So, if you can't grasp or fully wrap your mind around the love of God because it passes all understanding, if you can't fully relate to the love of God or if you can't come close to having that kind of love in your heart, why would you expect to understand or have the level of vengance in your heart that God has in His heart. The foolish atheist would say, "Well, I wouldn't send all of those people to Hell." Yeah, but you wouldn't die on the cross for people either! You wouldn't go to Hell for anyone either. But yet Jesus Christ died on the cross for us, He took the upon Himself the sins of the world and took the whole brunt of the wrath God the father poured out on the Son and He went to Hell for 3 days and 3 nights. That is an amount of love that I can't comprehend because I don't love anyone to that level, and if you are honest, you would say the same thing.

If we can't grasp the love of God, why would we think that we can grasp the wrath of God. God's wrath is also on this other level that we can't process. God is so far beyond us on His love and His justice. Vengeance is not necessarily a bad thing because it stems from God's righteousness. So, if you try to process Hell and the wrath of God just like you struggle to process the love of God, because you would find it hard to believe that God has forgiven someone like Jeffrey Dahmer and that Jeffrey Dahmer is in Heaven right now because He ended up believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and getting saved.

Please realize and accept that Number 1. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23

2. "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

3. "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

and do as Acts 16:30-31 says, "And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

The pure Gospel of Romans 3:24-26 - "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus."

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 says, "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Once you believe on the only one who defeated death and hell and rose from the dead - The Lord Jesus Christ - put all of your trust in Him and what He did for you on the cross to get you into Heaven, the death, the burial and the resurrection, then you are saved in that very moment and will be going to Heaven, a place of unfathomable beauty, peace and joy.

Revelation 21:1-5 - And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Revelation 21:21-25 - And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

John 14:2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

2 Peter 3:13 - Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 22:1-5 - And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
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@Emosaur No. Wrath is not inherently sinful. There's righteous wrath and unrighteous wrath. Righteous anger and unrighteous anger. Righteous hate and unrighteous hate. There is a time when it is justified and for the right cause and there are times when it is not. Man will sometimes display the unrighteous version of each, but God's is always righteous and always perfect and holy. Because God is so Holy and perfect, he is angry with the wicked every day.

God in His Word does want us to hate evil and He makes it clear that Love and hate (righteous hate) are two sides of the same coin. Romans 12:9 says, "Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good." Notice how it says let love be without dissimulation. Dissimulation - a simulation is a fake. This verse is saying do not let your love be fake and then it proceeds to define what real love is, which is abhorring or hating that which is evil! So, love and hate (righteous hate) are two sides of the same coin in Gods eyes.

Also, in Ecclesiastes 3:8, it very clearly says that there is a time and a season to hate, "A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."

While hate and anger are not supposed to dwell in our bosom, there is a time and a purpose for them where they are necessary and will even yield positive results. The Bible says be ye angry, but sin not. Righteous anger is a normal and good human emotion, but unrighteous anger is not. Being angry at wickedness and sin is a good thing and we should be.

If you don't hate that which threatens what you love, then hate becomes a catchword for hippies, queers and cowards.

If you love your child how can you not be angry about and hate the cancer that is killing him? If you love justice, how can you not hate thieves, murderers and rapists? If you love innocent women and children and families in other countries, how can you not have wrath about and hate our psychopathic presidents who send drone strikes to kill them?

You see, just because your feeble and ignorant mind cannot comprehend true love, true and righteous hate and anger, this does not mean there is a contradiction. There is a contradiction in your mind because you are making up your own rules, you are making up your own definitions of each of these things and you are making up your own god. You don't know the Bible at all. You might want to read it and actually think before commenting on it.

The wrath of God is a fearsome and terrifying thing. Only those who have been covered by the blood of Christ, shed for us on the cross, can be assured that God’s wrath will never fall on them. Romans 5:8-9 says, "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Emosaur When a person is left with nothing then, that's the last thing that person can say.
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Emosaur Your genuine Frustration.
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Emosaur Angry men are weak
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Emosaur But Since you can do so only in your dreams, which means you are a weak man with flowery dreams.
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Emosaur whatever that means.
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Emosaur Alright Emu
Sharon · F
@Emosaur He harrassed me in PM for a while but seems to have given up now because I just ignored hime. He's not worth anyone's time.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Sharon Harassed you? For all the laughter emojis?
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Sharon And That's why you keep coming on my posts uninvited?
chrisCA · M
@TheOrionbeltseeker I did not know that posts were by invitation only. 😅
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@chrisCA Now you know. So, ask for it beforehand.
@TheOrionbeltseeker

lol don't be a turd. Do you ever make a thoughtful contribution or just act as attack dog to anyone remotely critical?
Ah dang, i forgot to ask permission to point out your bad behaviour. 🤪
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Pikachu And the river of your thoughtful contribution is flowing upside down and Emu is showering in it to the point that the guy tagged his master to showoff his meaningful conversations.
I do all types of conversation when I am in mood. Not a robot bounded by 5G Network.
@TheOrionbeltseeker

Me: Do you ever make a thoughtful contribution or are you just an attack dog?

You: BARK BARK BARK! I could be thoughtful if i wanted! BARK BARK BARK!

lol case in point.😂🤣
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Pikachu Every word of yours is like snake hiss to me. Atleast I bark and make people alert. Enjoy with your slave Emu.
@TheOrionbeltseeker

lol You just keep making my point 🤷‍♀️
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Pikachu There is a proverb which says "What you look around in the world around you is a reflection of yours",

I find everyone meaningful, even your slave. Likewise, you find everyone talking meaninglessly, let it be your subject Emu. 👍