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OogieBoogie · F
Well, going on reports from people who have had NDE's, it seems the emcompassing love of god/creator/source is so strong it overpowers everything else one has experienced on earth.
So i imagine it becomes inconsequential.
Theoretically speaking of course.
So i imagine it becomes inconsequential.
Theoretically speaking of course.
@OogieBoogie
Which is something i find rather creepy, actually.
I have heard sentiments to that effect but it seems to me rather like a holy lobotomy.
Which is something i find rather creepy, actually.
I have heard sentiments to that effect but it seems to me rather like a holy lobotomy.
OogieBoogie · F
@Pikachu I think the problem you are struggling with is linked to 'identity' or 'ego'.....or perhaps thinking that heaven and hell are permanent places for souls to live forever.
Now im a little hazy on my bible, but im sure there is also Limbo. And somewhere it says " all souls who sin die".(ie, they are extinguished).
And that hell isnt so much a place for human souls, its a place for the angels who rejected god.
(This is debatable depending upon interpretation).
And, (from what i can remember) god says all souls are his.
There are so many contradictory quotes in the bible mentioning sinners going to hell, but also about jesus never stopping to save until he's saved every living soul.
Its a complex subject.
My personal belief is, every soul gets its chance/choice to go back to its source, or return.
And i dont believe that "heaven" is the end . I think its an eternal cycle.
God is supposedly beyond the concept of time and space, ergo , so are souls.
So who is to say you haven't already been to " heaven" and come back ?
Who's to say you haven't already spent time as an angel, or done this cycle many times before?
Now im a little hazy on my bible, but im sure there is also Limbo. And somewhere it says " all souls who sin die".(ie, they are extinguished).
And that hell isnt so much a place for human souls, its a place for the angels who rejected god.
(This is debatable depending upon interpretation).
And, (from what i can remember) god says all souls are his.
There are so many contradictory quotes in the bible mentioning sinners going to hell, but also about jesus never stopping to save until he's saved every living soul.
Its a complex subject.
My personal belief is, every soul gets its chance/choice to go back to its source, or return.
And i dont believe that "heaven" is the end . I think its an eternal cycle.
God is supposedly beyond the concept of time and space, ergo , so are souls.
So who is to say you haven't already been to " heaven" and come back ?
Who's to say you haven't already spent time as an angel, or done this cycle many times before?
@OogieBoogie
Unfortunately it's absolutely a place (and/or a punishment) for humans who fail to accept or be accepted by god.
Well i guess no one can say that but if we're talking Christian theology, no one is yet in heaven or hell. Or almost no one.
And that hell isnt so much a place for human souls, its a place for the angels who rejected god.
Unfortunately it's absolutely a place (and/or a punishment) for humans who fail to accept or be accepted by god.
Who's to say you haven't already spent time as an angel, or done this cycle many times before?
Well i guess no one can say that but if we're talking Christian theology, no one is yet in heaven or hell. Or almost no one.
OogieBoogie · F
@Pikachu
Edit ; have you ever considered that THIS might be hell?😏
no one is yet in heaven or hell. Or almost no one
well there ya go , what are you worried about?Edit ; have you ever considered that THIS might be hell?😏
@OogieBoogie
lol well just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's not a problem to consider.
Again, not really plausible in the context of Christianity.
I think we'll have notice when the oceans turn to blood and a third of all life dies.
lol well just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's not a problem to consider.
have you ever considered that THIS might be hell?
Again, not really plausible in the context of Christianity.
I think we'll have notice when the oceans turn to blood and a third of all life dies.
OogieBoogie · F
@Pikachu you know, considering the world right now, it might just happen .