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Adstar · 56-60, M
13:43.. 6) God does love all homosexuals and wants them saved,, Just as Good loves thieves and murderers and adulterers.. Jesus came into the world and died to pay the penalty for the sins of all sinners.. Where some cults go wrong is when they say that the sexual act of homosexuality is ok and not a sin.. The scriptures makes it clear that if a man lays with another man as a man lays with a woman it is an abomination to God.. But again all sins apart from blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.. So a homosexual who believes Jesus and trusts in the Atonement of Jesus will have eternity with God..
7) 33:43 Looking at the graffiti on the wall and watching up till that point i was getting the uneasy feeling that people where either being told that the Holy Spirit would cause one to cease sinning or that failing in ceasing to sin means the Holy Spirit does not want you or has rejected you.. I will keep watching to see if they say anything definite on this issue.. But if that's what they preach then they are just another Works salvation religion.. Salvation is a gift from God to us.. It is not some Loan we have to repaid with the achievement of sinless perfection on earth.. Jesus came to save us because we CANNOT achieve a sinless life on earth..
8) 39:15 Am thinking about the level of damage this society had done towards many of the guys in this video.. I think their level of damage drives them to persist in the hope of a solution that will rectify the damage done to their minds.. I don't feel any anger towards them.. Even the leaders.. I feel sorrow for them all.. While God can heal severe psychological damage .. The main point of believing Jesus and trusting in his atonement is not to have ones traumas in this world wiped.. I fear for a person who seeks God to have their traumas wiped on this world.. If a person gets religous with that expectation.. Then i can see the LORD withholding His cure for those traumas, because if God heals them then they will believe that's what the Word of God is all about.. They will miss the main game of Christianity.. Eternal salvation,, not earthly protection from troubles..
9) 59:00 They failed Keith.. Even if Keith was faking it.. and would not become a believer.. as a human being they should have helped him if they had material support to give..
10) 1:05.00 Baptism.. Water baptism is simply a public symbolic show of a change that has already happened within.. Alex is frustrated because his water baptism is being delayed.. Why? Does He believe that he is not a saved unless he has actually have the ceremony carried out upon him??? If so then that is another pointer to the organization being a works salvation religion.. The Holy Spirit comes to indwell within you when you believe Jesus and trust in the atonement He secured by His death on the cross.. It is not secured by someone submerging you into a pool of water..
I will finish watching this video later..
7) 33:43 Looking at the graffiti on the wall and watching up till that point i was getting the uneasy feeling that people where either being told that the Holy Spirit would cause one to cease sinning or that failing in ceasing to sin means the Holy Spirit does not want you or has rejected you.. I will keep watching to see if they say anything definite on this issue.. But if that's what they preach then they are just another Works salvation religion.. Salvation is a gift from God to us.. It is not some Loan we have to repaid with the achievement of sinless perfection on earth.. Jesus came to save us because we CANNOT achieve a sinless life on earth..
8) 39:15 Am thinking about the level of damage this society had done towards many of the guys in this video.. I think their level of damage drives them to persist in the hope of a solution that will rectify the damage done to their minds.. I don't feel any anger towards them.. Even the leaders.. I feel sorrow for them all.. While God can heal severe psychological damage .. The main point of believing Jesus and trusting in his atonement is not to have ones traumas in this world wiped.. I fear for a person who seeks God to have their traumas wiped on this world.. If a person gets religous with that expectation.. Then i can see the LORD withholding His cure for those traumas, because if God heals them then they will believe that's what the Word of God is all about.. They will miss the main game of Christianity.. Eternal salvation,, not earthly protection from troubles..
9) 59:00 They failed Keith.. Even if Keith was faking it.. and would not become a believer.. as a human being they should have helped him if they had material support to give..
10) 1:05.00 Baptism.. Water baptism is simply a public symbolic show of a change that has already happened within.. Alex is frustrated because his water baptism is being delayed.. Why? Does He believe that he is not a saved unless he has actually have the ceremony carried out upon him??? If so then that is another pointer to the organization being a works salvation religion.. The Holy Spirit comes to indwell within you when you believe Jesus and trust in the atonement He secured by His death on the cross.. It is not secured by someone submerging you into a pool of water..
I will finish watching this video later..
RubiesandButterflies · 51-55, F
@Adstar I was mentally and emotionally damaged by them. I joined 25 years ago and was only part of them on and off for around three years. Their teachings were warped. Women were banned from wearing trousers. Children were not aloowed birthday or christmas presents. Any money or possessions had to be shared. Meals were very basic as we were taught that we had to be grateful for what we got. I did not live in but I often stayed at weekends.