Truth behind resurrection of Jesus Christ
Poll - Total Votes: 20
Yes, Jesus rose from dead on the third day. There are people who witnessed this.
No, Jesus was crucified but not resurrected
Both crucifixion and resurrection never happened.
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You can only vote on one answer.
1. Yes, Jesus rose from dead on the third day. There are people who witnessed this.
2. No, Jesus was crucified but not resurrected.
3. Both crucifixion and resurrection never happened.
Exploring the truth behind the resurrection of Jesus via a discussion. Please share your thoughts. Informative comments will be summarised and updated under the above three categories.
[b]Arguments for ressurection claim :[/b]
Many people died to witness what they saw. Steven was stoned to death preaching about Jesus, and Paul witnessed that. He also start preaching about Jesus. The 4 major gospel accounts differ in the way they describe the same events. This is because God is very cleaver to give us many views of the same story, so we get a very detailed good picture of who God is; like being a detective asking what happened at a party. Luke foreinstance will tell what happened in great detail focusing on what was said, Mathew tells major events and who was related to who, Mark shares what the host did, and John tells how amazing the host is, and why he is worth knowing. ( Source:@Carazaa comments)
It is a common belief among Christians that resurrection happened and as it is hard to prove that resurrection happened it is also hard to prove that resurrection never happened. All proofs are hard to be bound under the realms of physics. But organised Christianity has shat on Jesus' messages in the millennia since. [ Sources : longpatrol and feetarefantastic]
[b]Arguments against resurrection claims :[/b]
There are four major gospels, and four versions of the resurrection.
The earliest Gospel was written by Mark. Matthew and Luke based their stories on Mark, editing according to their own purposes. All scholars agree that the last 12 verses of Mark, in modern translations, are highly dubious. Most agree that they do not belong in the bible. The earliest ancient documents of Mark end right after the women find the empty tomb. This means that in the first biography, on which the others based their reports, there is no post-resurrection appearance or ascension of Jesus. Noticing the problem, a Christian scribe at a much later time inserted verses 9-20. The Gospel accounts cannot be considered historical, but even if they were, they tell us that the earliest biography of Jesus contains no resurrection! They tell us that the Gospels were edited, adapted, altered and appended at later times to make them fit the particular sectarian theology of the writers. (Source : @BlueSkyKing)
Later authors copied from previous authors and make the miracles and works of Jesus more grandiose (Source : [@pickachu])
There are no first hand account of Jesus ever being on the cross - all the apostles fled when he was arrested.( Source : @jshm2)
Christianity and Jesus seem to have been copied from Mithra.
Mithra was a virgin-born Persian god. In 307 C.E. (just before Constantine institutionalized Christianity), the Roman emperor officially designated that Mithra was to be the “Protector of the Empire.” Historian Barbara Walker have recorded about Mithra's birth.
The sayings of Jesus can be attributed to Egyptian, Buddhist, and Hindu texts that were hundreds to thousands of years older than Bible( Source comment : @Tastyfrzz)
2. No, Jesus was crucified but not resurrected.
3. Both crucifixion and resurrection never happened.
Exploring the truth behind the resurrection of Jesus via a discussion. Please share your thoughts. Informative comments will be summarised and updated under the above three categories.
[b]Arguments for ressurection claim :[/b]
Many people died to witness what they saw. Steven was stoned to death preaching about Jesus, and Paul witnessed that. He also start preaching about Jesus. The 4 major gospel accounts differ in the way they describe the same events. This is because God is very cleaver to give us many views of the same story, so we get a very detailed good picture of who God is; like being a detective asking what happened at a party. Luke foreinstance will tell what happened in great detail focusing on what was said, Mathew tells major events and who was related to who, Mark shares what the host did, and John tells how amazing the host is, and why he is worth knowing. ( Source:@Carazaa comments)
It is a common belief among Christians that resurrection happened and as it is hard to prove that resurrection happened it is also hard to prove that resurrection never happened. All proofs are hard to be bound under the realms of physics. But organised Christianity has shat on Jesus' messages in the millennia since. [ Sources : longpatrol and feetarefantastic]
[b]Arguments against resurrection claims :[/b]
There are four major gospels, and four versions of the resurrection.
The earliest Gospel was written by Mark. Matthew and Luke based their stories on Mark, editing according to their own purposes. All scholars agree that the last 12 verses of Mark, in modern translations, are highly dubious. Most agree that they do not belong in the bible. The earliest ancient documents of Mark end right after the women find the empty tomb. This means that in the first biography, on which the others based their reports, there is no post-resurrection appearance or ascension of Jesus. Noticing the problem, a Christian scribe at a much later time inserted verses 9-20. The Gospel accounts cannot be considered historical, but even if they were, they tell us that the earliest biography of Jesus contains no resurrection! They tell us that the Gospels were edited, adapted, altered and appended at later times to make them fit the particular sectarian theology of the writers. (Source : @BlueSkyKing)
Later authors copied from previous authors and make the miracles and works of Jesus more grandiose (Source : [@pickachu])
There are no first hand account of Jesus ever being on the cross - all the apostles fled when he was arrested.( Source : @jshm2)
Christianity and Jesus seem to have been copied from Mithra.
Mithra was a virgin-born Persian god. In 307 C.E. (just before Constantine institutionalized Christianity), the Roman emperor officially designated that Mithra was to be the “Protector of the Empire.” Historian Barbara Walker have recorded about Mithra's birth.
The sayings of Jesus can be attributed to Egyptian, Buddhist, and Hindu texts that were hundreds to thousands of years older than Bible( Source comment : @Tastyfrzz)
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