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Why do people worship their favorite imaginary deity out of fear?

The Bible has lots of stories where people were forced to worship the God character out of fear. They were frightened that he would kill them if they didn't comply with his demands to be worshiped. He did kill hordes of people who rejected his demands and he is always threatening to kill all of humanity unless people cater to his every whim.

Are you fearful of incurring his wrath?

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Carazaa · F

I worship Jesus because he died for the worlds sins so that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. That is amazingly loving. We are sinners. God says that our hearts are desperately wicked and selfish. He has the right to have high standards that we should be loving, and humble. I wouldn't like a God who doesn't care about sin, rape, murder, hate, lies, cheating, etc. The reason for all the trouble is us, not God. He is not a God who says do whatever and you can get away with anything. A good God has standards. But He is very[i] slow[/i] to anger though [i]waiting[/i] for us to turn to him. Our lives are short, very short, and then we have to face God. No one gets away with murder, unless Jesus took that sin on his shoulders. We have to repent and be saved, then we are a new creature, loving, and forgiving.

The stories in the Bible are about a nation who were slaves and God freed them because he loved them. The stories lead up to Jesus coming. The stories are spiritual as well as historical with deep meaning about Gods justice and what we really deserve in the Old Testament which is death, and the grace of God in the New Testament, and how he rescues us from certain death because he loves us. The real slaughtered lamb is so beautiful and he takes away the sins of the world.

God is Holy! There are no sins in heaven. We can't make it to heaven without Jesus. When he saves us, He wipes away our sins forever!

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa And you call Jesus a liar. You worship the state not Jesus. Nice try though.

LordShadowfire · M

@Carazaa

CestManan · 46-50, F

@Carazaa [quote] God says that our hearts are desperately wicked and selfish.[/quote]
That is true. We are that way by design. Seems a little peculiar though that we are created to be evil by default and put into a wicked world but then we are suppose to be thankful that "our" sins can be forgiven.

He knew VERY WELL when he gave us free will that we would be sinners. What did he think was going to happen?

God lets satan and his demons wander the earth but then wants to send people to hell for being tempted by sin every waking moment?

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@CestManan Yes Yahweh is ETERNAL. All time is now for Him. He knew what was going to happen and He willingly took our punishment for us if we will simply accept that free gift. If you refuse that free gift then that is your choice to go to hell not God's. He gave you the Way of life and you tossed it away.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@hippyjoe1955 So created sin and evil, made us wicked, yet WE are suppose to ask forgiveness?

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 I worship the state? No, I worship Jesus and he said, "give to Ceasar what is due." Our country does not hold a gun to anyone's head saying you must have an abortion. We don't have an evil country until we force people to do whatever we want. I am not a fascist.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa You are a socialist. You worship Caesar and believe in sacrificing babies to Moloch. You are very far from being a Christian. Maybe you should humble yourself and ask for forgiveness.

Carazaa · F

@CestManan We should ask forgiveness because we are sinners, all of us. God does not hold a gun to your head saying you [i]must[/i] sin. He created us to love, but he doesn't force us to love. You can do whatever you want until Jesus comes back, then he will judge every person for their sinful life. If we have hate in our heart, he considers that murder and he will punish us accordingly. But God himself came down and took our sins and shame on his own shoulders because he loves us so if we believe in him, then we will be forgiven for every evil deed we did. I hope you will believe in him too 🙏🙂

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 I am not a socialist. I am a social democrat who believes in love and helping the poor and the needy with social programs. A socialist is someone who believes in communism which means everything is[i] owned [/i]by the state. I believe in private enterprise and strong caring government who pays for social programs like hospitals, housing the homeless and mentally ill, schools, roads, colleges, transportation.

Carazaa · F

@LordShadowfire Prove it? God already did. Look up at the sky at night. Do you see the stars? They didn't appear from nothing.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa Social democrat is still a socialist. The social democrats are members of socialist international. You are a socialist that defends infanticide. That is not Christian.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@Carazaa [quote]Prove it? God already did. Look up at the sky at night. Do you see the stars? They didn't appear from nothing.[/quote]

You may want to review how stars are formed.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-is-a-star-born/#:~:text=A%20star%20is%20born%20when,until%20the%20fusion%20reactions%20begin.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 No social democratic system is NOT communism. Jesus wants us to feed the poor.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa You have told me that you worship the state like every other socialist I have ever known. Sad that you can't see your own failures and instead try to project your fascism onto others who believe in freedom. I am not at all surprised. You also call Jesus a liar even as you pretend you worship Him. Here is a small hint.
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ and again “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Jesus said it is NOT the will of the Father that infants and children should perish but you say that abortion is fine thus you approve of the killing of infants which is contrary to the Will of the Father.

Carazaa · F

@Diotrephes So you think the Scientific article you are referring to below that I copied explains how stars are formed?
Are you kidding? No they don't know at all where light comes from, or nuclei. No one except God knows how stars are formed.

Why don't you tell me where light comes from?

[b]Scientificamerican[/b]
[quote] A star is born when atoms of light elements are squeezed under enough pressure for their nuclei to undergo fusion. All stars are the result of a balance of forces: the force of gravity compresses atoms in interstellar gas until the fusion reactions begin. And once the fusion reactions begin, they exert an outward pressure.[/quote]

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 You are a black and white thinker. For you its fascism, everything else is communism. I like democracy!

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa Jesus didn't leave much options. He said if you actively ignore the Will of the Father.... Then you willfully ignore the Will of the Father. Thus you call Jesus a liar. "He didn't really mean what He clearly said". Either Jesus was the Truth the Way and the Life or he is just a crank we can all ignore. I hold that He is God and thus unable to lie. He meant what He said. You can not ignore Him and call yourself a Christian.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 You are really mad that I have exposed fascism for what it is. It is extreme rightwing nationalism, racism, controlling authoritarianism that eventually leads to murder. We are to be loving, not hateful!

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa You are a fascist. Go read up on fascism before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Fascism is a leftist ideology. The only difference between it and communism is communists believe in a world wide government while fascists believe in national socialist governments. You are a fascist and not a Christian and it is extremely evident. It is not too late. You can still repent and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and stop calling Him a liar.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 Pro-tip Jesus wants us to turn the other cheek, and pray for our enemies, not murder them. Please tell all your homies!

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa Since you called Him a liar your interpretation of scripture is not worth the pixels you expend on my computer screen.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955
[b]Luke 6:32[/b]
[b][c=BF0000] Jesus words-27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.[/c][/b]

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@Carazaa Jesus should preach that to his homicidal maniac daddy, whose first commandment is to kill everyone without mercy.

Carazaa · F

@Diotrephes If you step on an ant are you a homicidal maniac?
I think you think too highly of yourself! But I sincerely hope and pray that you go to heaven. I am here to witness what Jesus has done for me, and I hope you find peace with God too 🙏

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@Carazaa Paul, the founder of Christianity, was a mean SOB when he said =

2 Thessalonians 3:10 (ERV) = When we were with you, we gave you this rule: “Whoever will not work should not be allowed to eat.”

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