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Why do people worship their favorite imaginary deity out of fear?

The Bible has lots of stories where people were forced to worship the God character out of fear. They were frightened that he would kill them if they didn't comply with his demands to be worshiped. He did kill hordes of people who rejected his demands and he is always threatening to kill all of humanity unless people cater to his every whim.

Are you fearful of incurring his wrath?
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Diotrephes

[quote] Just remember, when the Jesus character returns he will be a theocratic dictator who will rule with an iron rod. So, if you think the Taliban is mean you sure won't like him. And then he will kill all life and destroy the planet. He's not a nice guy which is why everyone will curse him night and day. You might learn some new curse phrases in a lot of different languages. [/quote]


For sure, you are creating and destroying the verses and the teaching for your own manipulation but I think more like you are being manipulated by Satan. Why so?

I have never seen a person as liberal as Jesus Christ putting last stone down which was supposed to be thrown at that women who was a sinner. He forgave her going out of the norms and the society. Norms were recreated by him which is err absolutely Liberal in nature.

Healing on sabbath is another example of breaking the societal strict rules and at that time, surely, it would have been the biggest crime but still he was liberal in his approach.

He walked with Mary and didn't even think of people like you would make Mary his lover at some point of time. He gave you enough gunpowder which people capitalize in Novels such as that of Dan Brown.
If it were all fake, Even a king won't add Mary's name to it as A king even in 1700s knew the psychology of Gen pop like you.

[b]Jesus is the Living God[/b]
And i have personally felt every bit of it. Unlucky are those who do not get to see it. But anyways, I am least interested to teach a 75 year old person. If you don't know it by yourself at such an age, it's your fault. whatever has happened with you in your life, I don't know but I will pray to my God to have mercy on you for your situation doesn't let you identify him. I am still sure that if you want to learn about him then they say, "[u]Age is just a Number[/u]" and it is true. Go ahead. Nurture yourself with the word of Lord when you really feel like. I hope you will feel like doing it soon.
Sharon · F
@TheOrionbeltseeker [quote]He walked with Mary and didn't even think of people like you would make Mary his lover at some point of time.[/quote]
His dad was meant to be omniscient so would have known what was going to happen. He should have warned him. It doesn't really matter anyway, it's just a myth to control the people. It seems to have worked very well on you.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Sharon It has not worked on you yet But I don't know why Sharon, out of all these people talking, I really feel you are Very Close to know him. For reference as when did we talk, we have talked many a times over all the posts all these years. Not sure about the rest but I think you will love God with all your heart. It is just a thought. Maybe I am wrong but I feel like it for ya.
Sharon · F
@TheOrionbeltseeker In your dreams, or should I say "delusions"? You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. That BS will never work on me, I saw through it all years ago. Maybe one day you will too, there's some hope for you yet.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Sharon Maybe it is a delusion of mine about you in the service of the Lord. But I sincerely hope it's not. I just said what and how I felt. I may be completely wrong.
@TheOrionbeltseeker

[quote]out of all these people talking, I really feel you are Very Close to know him[/quote]

lol wow...i do NOT share that perception.

I think there are people on here who are less open than Sharon to believing in and worshiping the god of Abraham...but not many.
I admire your optimism... but you're barking up the wrong tree, John.
redredred · M
@Sharon As Christopher Hitchens observed “that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”
@TheOrionbeltseeker

[quote]I have never seen a person as liberal as Jesus Christ putting last stone down which was supposed to be thrown at that women who was a sinner. [/quote]

Ah yes, saving the adulteress. Truly one of Jeus' most iconic acts of forgiveness.
Seems likely to be entirely fabricated even within the context of the gospels. It appears to be a late addition to the gospel of John because the earlier Greek manuscripts of that book do not contain that story.

Proof positive of how the legend of Jesus was added upon to make it more inspiring and impressive.
Such is the evolution of myths.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
[quote] lol wow...i do NOT share that perception.

I think there are people on here who are less open than Sharon to believing in and worshiping the god of Abraham...but not many.
I admire your optimism... but you're barking up the wrong tree, John. [/quote]

I don't want to waste my time on you. What felt about Sharon, I told her. You are not like her.
I am optimistic about @redredred too but not as optimistic as I am about Sharon. Not optimistic about you at all. I am sorry.
redredred · M
@TheOrionbeltseeker Nothing, NOTHING would ever compel me to accept a silly, ignorant Bronze Age superstition as true or even respectable. Your “god” has been the root cause of endless war, repression ant the enshrinement of ignorance.
@TheOrionbeltseeker

[quote]. You are not like her.[/quote]

Correct. I'm less ideologically opposed to believing in the god of Abraham than Sharon is.
I have issues with the character of god and find the story fundamentally unconvincing while she is downright contemptuous of the Character of god and often to those who defend it so blindly.

Tell me, what do you feel you see in her that suggests to you she's actually a prime candidate to love god just oh so much?
And why are you not optimistic about me? What do you know of me?
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@redredred I won't comment much on it since all you say is true but all you say is also the Prediction of Bible for sin will keep transgressing human being.
What is being polygamy to you? Certainly, it's a bad idea as it neglects the sentiment of a person who has committed her whole body to you and vice versa. Modern society in the name of being Modern is doing the same. Development does not mean deforestation. Modernity is not sure of what it is doing and why it is doing so. Not clear of the objectives at all. When they could feed a thousands of people, they want to be on Solar Missions and Lunar Mission, that ultimately will come back to zero. But anyways, let's wait for the future. I am eagerly looking at you and a few more people whom I think will be open to communication from The Lord.

I still respect your decision not to give up your original thoughts for someone says that God is there. First, feel the ocean of love then swim in it. Till then, I wish you good life.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Pikachu Not wasting my time on you. My time is precious than what you perceive it to be.
@TheOrionbeltseeker

Hmm awfully rushed for someone who thinks they're going to have eternal life...

[quote]Not wasting my time on you[/quote]

lol so people who tell you that you're dead wrong about them and will never believe in your god you have time to talk to but someone who asks you why you think what you think you have no time for...
Funny that.

Odd way to spend your unknowably precious time lol
But you do you....
Carazaa · F
@TheOrionbeltseeker[quote] I have never seen a person as liberal as Jesus Christ putting last stone down which was supposed to be thrown at that women who was a sinner.[/quote]

I love that, so beautiful and so true.

[b][c=BF0000] "He who is without sin, cast the first stone" [/c][/b]John 8:7
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@TheOrionbeltseeker You are missing the point about the woman who was accused of being caught in adultery. She was not caught in a sexual act. She was caught worshiping another God, probably the Jesus character himself since he was always going around babbling about how he was the son of God and no one could get into heaven without him.

Adultery is a metaphor used in the Old Testament for the act of worshiping another God.

[b][i]The passage illustrates the First Commandment, Exodus verses 34:14-16.[/i][/b]

Do you think people were screwing trees and rocks?

Jeremiah 3:8 (NKJV) = "Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a certificate of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but went and played the harlot also."

Jeremiah 3:9 (CEB) = "She didn’t think twice about corrupting the land and committing adultery with stone and tree."

Jeremiah 5:7 (AMP) = “Why should I [overlook these offenses and] forgive you? Your children have abandoned (rejected) Me And sworn [their oaths] by those who are not gods. When I had fed them until they were full [and bound them to Me by a promise], They committed [spiritual] adultery, Assembling in troops at the houses of prostitutes (idols)."

Ezekiel 23:37 (CEB) = "They committed adultery, so now blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols, and they even took their children whom they had borne to me and offered them up to be consumed for them."

Exodus 34:15 (TLB) = “No, do not make a peace treaty of any kind with the people living in the land, for they are spiritual prostitutes, committing adultery against me by sacrificing to their gods. If you become friendly with them and one of them invites you to go with him and worship his idol, you are apt to do it."

Exodus 34:16 (TLB) = "And you would accept their daughters, who worship other gods, as wives for your sons—and then your sons would commit adultery against me by worshiping their wives’ gods."

Psalm 106:39 (TLB) = "Their evil deeds defiled them, for their love of idols was adultery in the sight of God."

Isaiah 57:7-8 (TLB) = "You have committed adultery on the tops of the mountains, for you worship idols there, deserting me. Behind closed doors you set your idols up and worship someone other than me. This is adultery, for you are giving these idols your love instead of loving me."

Jeremiah 3:13 (TLB) = "Only acknowledge your guilt; admit that you rebelled against the Lord your God and committed adultery against him by worshiping idols under every tree; confess that you refused to follow me."

Ezekiel 16:17 (TLB) = "You took the very jewels and gold and silver ornaments I gave to you and made statues of men and worshiped them, which is adultery against me."

The Jesus character was caught in a bind. He couldn't condemn the woman because if he had he would have opened the door for the crowd to condemn all of his disciples for worshiping him. So, he did the wiggle.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Carazaa The Jesus character was supposed to have been sinless so it was his duty to cast the first stone. He didn't because he was a hypocrite.
Carazaa · F
@Diotrephes

I think you are the one who missed the point Jesus made, that no one should throw stones because we are all sinners. Another way his point is illustrated is in Luke 13:4; the apostles asked him if the people who had been in the Tower of Siloam disaster had been bad sinners. Jesus said
[quote] "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you no! But unless you repent, you will all perish" [/quote]
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Carazaa Galileans were members of the twelve tribes of Israel. He wasn't talking about Romans or Greeks. Nazareth is in Galilee, Jesus' home grounds.
Carazaa · F
@Diotrephes What are you smoking 😂? I am responding to why Jesus said" the one who is without sin, throw the first stone" Meaning we are [b]all[/b] sinners,[b] all of us[/b]. And he gave another illustration that we are all sinners when the apostles asked are those people sinful that had a disaster. Jesus said everyone is sinful, and unless we repent, we will[b] all [/b]perish!

And I will repeat again his words

"For God so loved [b]THE WORLD [/b]that he gave his only begotten Son, that [b]WHOSOEVER [/b]believes in him will[b] not [/b]perish, but have[b] everlasting life. John 3:16[/b]
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Carazaa [quote]"For God so loved THE WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
[/quote]

That is one of the silliest verses in the Bible. The Old Testament is all about the God, who had many aliases but insisted that he was the king of the hill and that no one else should be worshipped but him.

The Saul/Paul concocts the Jesus character to sell his religion of resurrection. When it became apparent that the Jews weren't interested interested in the Jesus doctrine, they had to focus on the Gentiles. But some of the story tellers and writers (like Matthew) had gone all in about making it just about the Jews.

The bottom line is that it is an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish fairy tale that is totally irrelevant to everyone else who does not fit that demographic. On top of that, you are wasting your time and just fooling yourself because you don't follow the doctrine as specified in the Bible.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Diotrephes Looks like Satan came in your dreams to tell your all of the concocted sugary stories. wow. Such a beautiful imagination and narration. Aren't you that novelist Dan Brown himself?
Carazaa · F
@Diotrephes I think you've missed the biggest point of all! That I love Jesus, he answers my prayers, and I know when he saved me. A miracle happened that day when the Holy Spirit completely changed my heart. We are a "peculiar people", as God describes us. We are His! He won't let us go, no matter what. I don't belong to the world; I belong to God. OfCourse, we seem strange. And I understand why people say God is mean, and ask why are there terrible things in the world? Because people don't know God, and they don't know WHY he does what he does. The only way to find out why is to ask him to give you wisdom. If you want truth, he'll give you truth, and it will blow you away! God says that people have tickling ears, and if you have tickling ears he'll give you a lie. So be careful. Ask for wisdom! Most people love a lie. Just look at the world.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Diotrephes Dan Brown imagined himself as Robert Langdon, the Professor of artifacts and monumental history. You too seem much like that. Do you have a fantasy/history of wanting to be a professor ever in your life at any point of time?
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Diotrephes Fulfilling your unsettled fantasies on Similar World is a great idea.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Carazaa I'm glad that it is working out for you and that you continue to find peace and security in your beliefs.

When you need a morale boost read Galatians chapter 1 =
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=galatians+1&version=TLB