Would you eliminate all sin and evil if you could?

Would you eliminate all sin and evil if you could?

Do you have to do evil to survive?

Everyone who has survived and thrived in our past, has done evil as well as good to survive.

Evil, like good, seems to be something that we must do.

Perhaps that is why some non-believers, as well as believers, say that sin is a happy human fault and necessary to both God and nature’s plan to keep us alive.

We all sin, apparently. I know I have. Some to my shame, and some proudly.

I see most people doing a lot more good than evil, but overall, is that bit of evil good for humans as well?

As I look at evolution, I see cooperation as the good, as no victim or loser is created.

When I look at competitions, I see a victim/loser to it, and that would be the small evil in the greater good of our continuing evolution.

Would you eliminate all sin it you could?

I would not.

Regards
DL

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BlueSkyKing · M

Good people do good things and evil people do evil things. But it takes religion for good people to do evil things. The Bible is not a book of morality. The words "moral" and "morality" are not in there.

My adage is: If it’s not science, it’s superstition. Your book has magic based stories throughout. It reads just like mythology. Any prophecies made are fulfilled only in that book, no independent validations.

GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@BlueSkyKing We share much of the same thinking but I have to disagree on the value of the bible, in terms of value.

It, like nothing else that I read and tried to understand, is key to my morality.

That is why I am a Gnostic Christina and Christians hate my kind.

We call out Yahweh/Jesus out for the fucking evil demiurge he is.

Christians hate us because we call them out to discuss their moral tenets, and force them to run away, because they cannot do apologetics for them.

Inquisitor minds never can.

Regards
DL

DocSavage · M

Nope.
Life would be far to boring without it.

GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@DocSavage Savage. Smile.

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DL

Entwistle · 56-60, M

They are just concepts. How could i eliminate concepts?

GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@Entwistle IDK. Are it's effects in reality necessary?

Are they not worth getting rid of?

Regards
DL

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GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@SW-User Let me repeat what I just gave on evil. It applies to sin.

As you said, it is all subjective, which means that sin and evil are things you and I would not want done to us.

If you can define it better, let's hear it.

Regards
DL

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GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@SW-User I not that I was rather tart in my reply. No challenge meant. I am nikking badly. I did not want to quit smoking but had a heart attack forces.

Thanks for not just kissing me off. I will try to do better.

What do you think of the general premise of the O.P.?

Regards
DL

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

I'd like for someone to define sin, or at least evil. Because it seems like both of those words have subjective definitions. To the owner of a multi-million dollar corporation, it's not evil or sinful to destroy local businesses because they are competitors, but it's evil or sinful to steal from the company. But to a homeless person, it's evil and sinful to steal from other homeless folks, but not necessarily from a store owned by a multimillion dollar corporation.

In fact, let's be honest. The concept of theft only arose after the first civilizations began to form. Taking things from other people wasn't considered wrong, but a method of survival.

Even the concept of murder is murky. Is it wrong to kill somebody if they have a gun in their hand, preparing to kill innocent children? What if that same person is pointing their gun at a rich CEO whose corporate practices caused an entire region of poor families to die of cancer? What if that same person is pointing their gun at a Russian soldier, or a car thief?

Even certain things all humans consider evil are only really evil to a human. From the standpoint of other animals, it's evil to destroy an entire wooded area just to build more nests for humans, or to kill all members of a particular species in a region. But we do it, and if other humans complain about it, we ignore them.

So please.

What is evil?

GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire As you said, it is all subjective, which means that sin and evil are things you and I would not want done to us.

If you can define it better, let's hear it.

Regards
DL

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@GnosticChristian I like that. It's simple. Cuts through all the complex questions. I wish more Christians had good, simple answers that don't oversimplify.

GnosticChristian · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire I hear you, but Christianity as a whole lost that chance when the fools did not elect a Gnostic Catholic pope.

All Christians today have the same opportunity but they see all religions as just tribes, which is what they all are.

Start any moral discussion and you will se Gnostics step up while Christians step back.

If the world recognized that fact I would go from a Gnostic Bishop to Pope.

The world would rather believe what the inquisitors said of us.

Murderers never lie.

Regards
DL

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