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MethDozer · M
@CopperCicada I respect a persons heartfelt beliefs but this is my sentimemt exactly. Freedom of religion is used amd treated as priviledge for religion and it's disgusting.
SW-User
Religion already enjoys a number of special privileges in this country. Yet if you listen to Christian conservatives, they are the most oppressed people on earth. They don't seem to be satisfied with anything other than complete hegemony. Freedom to worship and not be discriminated against because of religion, absolutely. Religious doctrine being made law, no thanks. That is what happens in those dreaded Islamic theocracies that these same people so claim to abhor.
MethDozer · M
@SW-User exactly
1954zebedee · 70-79, M
@SW-User very well said.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
“These religious nutjobs have wayy to much freedon and power”
What freedoms do you propose to deny them?
Their right to vote?
Their right to serve their country?
Their right to run for elected office?
Or is being a religious nut job such a heinous crime that they should be denied Their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
What freedoms do you propose to deny them?
Their right to vote?
Their right to serve their country?
Their right to run for elected office?
Or is being a religious nut job such a heinous crime that they should be denied Their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
SW-User
My two year old could write a better post than this.
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
@SW-User right!
SW-User
@AngelKrish Yep 😂
deadgerbil · 26-30
It's annoying how religious beliefs are still exalted in society. Like these people can't even agree amongst themselves on what to believe in and they've had literally thousands of years to get their story straightened out
But the moment someone says they are an atheist, they are treated as Satan incarnate for not believing the bullshit
But the moment someone says they are an atheist, they are treated as Satan incarnate for not believing the bullshit
DffrntDrmmr · M
Un-American. Intolerant and condenscending. May you and those that think like you never be considered acceptable in US society. Freedom of conscience and thought is vital to life itself.
MethDozer · M
@DffrntDrmmr recent court decisions prove otherwise. Freedom of religion does not equal rule and privledge of religion.
Their tax exempt status also proves otherwise
Their tax exempt status also proves otherwise
DffrntDrmmr · M
@MethDozer The abortion decision is not necessarily one of religion. I'm not well-versed in its arguments one way or another, but it seems to me that the court removed a one-sided previous decision, not imposed one. States decisions and the debate continues, and politically closer to the citizens homes, too.
As for it not being a pro-religion decision, that it coincides is not the same as partiality to religion. I'm not religious, but I think a human life is in process starting at conception — that's indisputable, isn't it? — but I also think the government ruling over a woman's body and her decisions regarding it seems a violation, too. It's a debate I can side with either and find it fascinating a compromise seems wrong, too. So I have no stance other than confusion.
Anyway, my I point is its not really a decision the court made to favor the reigious.
As for it not being a pro-religion decision, that it coincides is not the same as partiality to religion. I'm not religious, but I think a human life is in process starting at conception — that's indisputable, isn't it? — but I also think the government ruling over a woman's body and her decisions regarding it seems a violation, too. It's a debate I can side with either and find it fascinating a compromise seems wrong, too. So I have no stance other than confusion.
Anyway, my I point is its not really a decision the court made to favor the reigious.
MethDozer · M
@DffrntDrmmr bulllshit. It was decided by known memebers of the Christian right. The states trying to outlaw it are all Christian right ruled states. It most certainly is based on religion.
Same goes about marriage issues, sunday blue laws,sex acts, school lessons, etc.
Same goes about marriage issues, sunday blue laws,sex acts, school lessons, etc.
exexec · 61-69, C
Although my faith is important to me, I believe that freedom FROM religion is vital in our society. People need to be free to think and not have their lives controlled by those who would force their ethos on all of society.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
And they don't seem to appreciate that it also means Freedom FROM Religion if that is the individual's preference.
MethDozer · M
@dancingtongue The hilariously sad part is they think they are the oppressed.
1954zebedee · 70-79, M
Thanks. For a while I thought I was on my own saying this!
MethDozer · M
@1954zebedee Evangelicals are dismantling every but2 of progress this country has made towards it's stated goals.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@Ontheroad. One of the cornerstones of my religion is the 10 Commandments. Thou shall not commit murder is a religious law. Thou shall not steal is a religious law. Thou shall not commit perjury is a religious law. The reason the government can enforce these laws is not because they are enforcing Religious laws, but because these have been codified as a civil law. The same thing needs to happen with regards to abortion. Until congress codifies it as law, or if an amendment to the constitution makes it a constitutional right, it should be decided by the individual states. That’s what distinguishes a representative government from a Theocracy
Ontheroad · M
@GJOFJ3 Again, I disagree. The right to choose between having or not having an abortion is a Liberty... pure and simple. Liberty is protected by the Constitution. It needs no codification. That right (that Liberty) was taken away by a majority of Justices on the SCOTUS. Their decision was based upon their religious beliefs. End of story.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@Ontheroad No, Roe was not decided on as an established liberty. On January 22, 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy", which protects a pregnant woman's right to an abortion. The Court also held that the right to abortion is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and prenatal life. The Court resolved these competing interests by announcing a pregnancy trimester timetable to govern all abortion regulations in the United States.
Torsten · 36-40, M
maybe certain religions, Not all religions are treated so highly and respected or have any special privileges. I would put Christianity and Monotheistic at the top of the list for sure. But people have also made politics and political sides to be a somewhat type of religion also now.
Freedom of religion will never be reevaluated and I dont personally think it should
Freedom of religion will never be reevaluated and I dont personally think it should