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It will be "As in the Days of Noah" when Jesus comes back.

Genesis 6: The Days of Noah.
The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.
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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
Genesis 6:6 has always puzzled me.

How can God regret anything?

He knew from the foundation of the world how things were going to turn out in Noah's time.
Carazaa · F
@Thinkerbell The word regret is not the same as in the english meaning.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Thinkerbell Remb that alot of the original words used in the Bible have no direct English equivalent and these words were choosen back when English was used differently than today so its very hard to sometimes understand the text in the way that we would say it.

My understanding is that God knew it would happen but was angry at the behavior anyway ( regret).
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@REMsleep

But Carazaa gave the NIV translation, which uses modern, not obsolete, meanings of English words.

If the original Hebrew text meant "angry," then the NIV would/should have used that word.
Or, if there is no one-word equivalent in English, the NIV would/should have provided a phrase that conveys the correct meaning in a footnote.
Carazaa · F
@Thinkerbell He was disappointed and upset about what man did. Maybe he wished that he had not made man, I guess it is possible, but it is clear from Genesis (If you study Hebrew) that God already had the entire salvation planned out for us before the foundation of the world.
Carazaa · F
@Thinkerbell
Isaiah 46:10
"I declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Carazaa

"He was disappointed and upset..."

Same question. How could God be disappointed and upset about something He knew was going to happen even before He created it?

My understanding is that God gave us free will, knowing full well that we would do a LOT of evil, but that He would take the evil unto Himself through Christ's sacrifice and thereby blot the evil out and remember the sin no more.

I think that means that in the end, EVERYONE is redeemed; the good that they did (however little or much) is preserved for eternity and the evil is consigned to oblivion.

So that makes me something of a universalist. It seems to me a just and loving God would not create a person that He knew beforehand was only going to be sent to hell.
Carazaa · F
@Thinkerbell
Isaiah 46:10
I declare the end from the Beginning.
The Hebrew language is 3 languages in one and the first word of the Bible tells us the ending of History. "In the Beginning" in Hebrew is BERISHEET, and in that one word God tells us all of the Bible and its ending.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Thinkerbell only catch is that we have to accept God sacrifice to have salvation. If we don't accept the Sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross, reject the blood of Jesus, then The judge of the earth, Jesus Christ, has no choice but to cast that soul into eternal damnation, Hell. It still is free will. Accept Jesus Christ or reject Him.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Baremine

"...then The judge of the earth, Jesus Christ, has no choice but to cast that soul into eternal damnation, Hell. "

But that raises the thorny question of why a just and loving God would create a person in the first place whose soul He knew from the foundation of the world would be eternally damned.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Thinkerbell I've asked that of Christians for years. You're wasting your time. All they do is fall back on that free will bullshit, without realizing it solves nothing.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Thinkerbell Well I have not researched this specifc verse but I can tell you that I only use NIV as a supplement because I used to think as you do but then I found out that certain members of the board of people who manage the updating of the NIV Bible have an agenda and I was shown a couple of verses that to my understanding the meaning was totally changed by their choice of words so I do not trust the NIV 100%. Its good sometimes to read in updated language but we must be very careful.
I was surprised at the verses that were meantioned in the article I read. And I looked them up and I agreed with the criticism.
Also even if the translation is perfect I have heard several verses that I felt that I understood and then after more study or learning more contextual background I realized that I had assumed something different than what was said regarding the Bible.
Its a way of speaking that we don't realy get so this is why we study the entire Bible.
Regret might be angry with dissapointment. We sometimes know that something is going to happen but we can still feel that way about those we love who have bad actions.
If you get my meaning. Basically what I am saying is that it does not mean that God was surprised.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Thinkerbell Eternal damnation might not be what you imagine. When I have time I will include more.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@REMsleep My cousin, the one who converted me to Christianity for the brief amount of time that I was a christian, used to call the NIV the "nearly inspired version". He was New King James only.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@LordShadowfire Yes I was a naive Christian assuming that any widely used Bible was thoroughly veted and excellent for use.
Turns out its not true. My mom is a KJV person also and I'm no scholar but I agree that for us who only speak English it is the best translation.
I think that politics and cancel culture and all of the virtue signaling that affects everything today also affects the board members in the 1970s or whenever they were working on it.
NIV is a good resource when speaking to those who are turned off by olde English. But, on any point of confusion I consult KJV due to NIV's habit of being less precise in translation.
There are even verses that just plain omit a sentence or a very important word is missing in the NIV version.

For those who take Christ seriously this is really bad. But its the 2nd most popular Bible version so let that sink in.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@REMsleep

"...I can tell you that I only use NIV as a supplement..."

I agree. Not only have I found the KJV more accurate, but the KJV is much more beautifully written. Those Elizabethans could write like no one else.

"Eternal damnation might not be what you imagine."

I think I have imagined most of the possibilities, ranging from fire and brimstone, to wailing and gnashing of teeth in outer darkness, to (self-imposed) eternal estrangement from God.
But eternity is a long time, so I think in the latter case, everyone would come to see the error of their ways and turn to God, who would in no wise reject them.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Thinkerbell what do you will " it is appointed unto man once to die and after that the judgement".
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Baremine · 70-79, C
@LordShadowfire Hebrews 9:27
Carazaa · F
@REMsleep OK, I think you are referring more to the new living Bible, they paraphrase. I read KJV also and I quote it here when the words are not too difficult. I am going to start reading the Bible in original Hebrew though to understand each letter better.
Carazaa · F
@Baremine Thank you!🙏
Carazaa · F
@LordShadowfire Come on dude!😏
Carazaa · F
@Thinkerbell Its free will. Like saying to your kids. Whoever has a good attitude today get invited to the party Saturday, the others have to stay behind.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Thinkerbell Satan and all of the fallen angels know the power and majesty of God but reject to follow him.
I also saw a TikTok this week with where this woman said that even if Jesus or God appeared in all of his power before her she would refuse to worship him because she dosen't believe that God is worthy of worship and that she would rather ask Satan what he knows and why he doesn't follow God.
I tried to find that video to share but I can't find it.

But the Bible says this:
The Rich Man and Lazarus from Luke 16

He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead
Carazaa · F
@REMsleep Wow, frightening! 😥