Luke 16:18 Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

@Ceinwyn I guess so. Thing is, that's why courtships used to last so very long. That's the thing I think we need to bring back.

@Ceinwyn I would never divorce, but I would separate immediately until he had help
and call the police if there is criminal behaviors.

@Carazaa I don't believe that any "man" who gets violent with a woman deserves any sort of second chance.

@NotJamieM
Everyone deserves a chance. Most men don't beat their wives, many wives have affairs and leave their men to be "happy" and they forgot their promises and vows
" for better or for worse until death do us part"

@Carazaa that's an entirely different situation. Most men do not beat their wives, but some do. And you can't compare a cheating wife to one who has suffered physical abuse. The latter is on a short list of things where there should be no second chance. It's just another chance to be hurt again. Leopards don't change their stripes.

@NotJamieM But we can separate like I said, and demand change. And we can remain alone and help people for the rest of our lives as separated, we don't have to be men obsessed.

@SW-User I think so too!

@SW-User @Carazaa What I'm hearing is that you two don't believe a woman deserves to be happy if she happens to get trapped in a bad marriage, and you don't think she deserves to know what a good romantic relationship feels like.

@LordShadowfire She can be happy if she has high standards and picks carefully and puts Jesus before her mate. We are to love God more than anything.