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Sin is the deviation from God's intended will for creation. In our contemporary milieu, ideas like the simulation theory, popularized by professor

Nick Bostrom, whose theory suggests that the world is a giant artificial computer simulation, helps us plainly begin to examine sin as being similar to a powerful computer virus. In modern computing, a virus is considered small programs or scripts that can negatively affect the health of your computer. Thus, the sin virus is simply the reversal or decay of our intended state of being both in software or the unseen world as well as the hardware - the visible world. Sin virus = death spiral.

The sin virus like the computer virus requires agency. According the Encyclopedia Britannica, an agent in the realm of computing is called a softbot or software robot, "a computer program that performs various actions continuously and autonomously on behalf of an individual or an organization. For example, a software agent may archive various computer files or retrieve electronic messages on a regular schedule. Such simple tasks barely begin to tap the potential uses of software agents, however. This is because an intelligent software agent can observe the behaviour patterns of its users and learn to anticipate their needs or at least their repetitive actions. Such intelligent software agents frequently rely on techniques from other fields of artificial intelligence, such as expert systems and neural networks, and aim to achieve complex goals."

The complex goal in the case of the sin virus is death. The sin virus has infected physical creation itself with decay, which the materialist philosophers have concluded, as well as material sciences have theorized, as heat death, includes an eschatology for the ultimate end of existence as we know it. This state of death that we have inherited from the sin virus has been expressed in many ways throughout history, but perhaps the most appropriate is the ouroboros or the serpent eating its own tale - the ancient symbol for the cyclical nature of life and death, a deliberate reminder of who is actually responsible for this error in the fabric of creation.

There is only one way to get rid of this virus: believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, the one who would allow the virus to swallow Him whole, to overcome Him, to take Him to its deepest depths. Sometimes to fix a problem, there must be one willing to go to the painful heart of its core. After He died and went to the heart of the earth, three days passed and He defeated the virus, he got the keys to and conquered death and hell; something was done that had never been done before nor could it have been done by any other - the programmer just fixed a flaw in the program from the inside.

As opposed to simply hitting delete on all of this and starting again, He decided to get His hands deep in the mix. Indeed a connection was formed from the inside out. The first connection of its kind; everything before it was from the outside in. Before that day God chose men. It is the effect of that hour which allows you to choose God. Make the choice today to put all of your trust on the Lord Jesus Christ and what He did for you alone, so that you may be free from the virus, with a new genetic code, enabling you to connect to Heaven for all of eternity.


Remember, we are born into a spiritual war. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of the darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Mankind is a fallen creature, yet we still consider every living person as a valuable child of God created in His image, unique and loved by the creator of all things.

How are we both fallen and at the same time loved with a perfect love of our Heavenly Father you might ask? It is because we are suspended in a spiritual war that we did not start, but are certainly responsible for entering into. The war that began in the heavenly realm has two distinct sides - one that is not from this world, but of the Kingdom of Heaven in the process of restoring the intended infrastructure of Gods rightful creation, and the other led by the prince of the power of the air, who can appear as an angel of light or the shining one - that old serpent, the dragon, whose personal rebellion and subsequent lie to Eve - the mother of all living, with a complicit Adam brought sin into our world.


"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

“And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” – Acts 16:30-31

“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” – Romans 4:5

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. “ – John 3:16

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13.
You never see Christian’s quoting the scripture about collecting foreskins as a wedding present….
karysma · 31-35, F
@BoredDarkLord Well the Philistineans were going to try to kill the Israelites anyways so it was a Kill Or Be Killed type of situation 😄
Adstar · 56-60, M
@karysma Philistines Karysma.. 🙂 I bet there are a few philipinas who will be jumping up and down in protest after reading your post 🤣 💛
karysma · 31-35, F
@Adstar You know how auto predict is 😂. I corrected that
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Not sure how you connect human behaviour with computers, and the paragraph

The complex goal in the case of the sin virus is death. .... this error in the fabric of creation.

is just bizarre ; although it makes slightly more sense if the word "with" in the second sentence is replaced with "which", as I think you intended.

The point is that humans with all their IQ, emotions and instincts do not function like computers; while computers are inanimate objects that can function only as humans design and programme them to do.

Yes you can programme a computer to do good or bad; but that is by human agency alone. If you define "sin" as human behaviour that harms others, then perhaps you could regard hacking and the like as "sinful". An oddly old-fashioned term for a modern offence, to be sure, but still a harmful offence.

I can see a point about "sin", as acting against others for selfish reasons, having virus-like tendencies; but the simile is closer to the biological than digital virus. As for being sinful or virtuous according to being religious, some of the cruelest people down the centuries have used either their fervency of religion or hatred of it, to excuse their "sin" of cruelty. Some- not all, I add.

Conversely, you do not need be religious to be "virtuous", or at least be not "sinful" by that definition above.

NOTE_ I use the term "religion / religious". I name no specific one of any one of the umpteen faiths and their sects that have come, gone or still exist around the world; each true to its own followers. The age-old "my faith / sect / own interpretation is the only true one" claim is pure prejudice against others and continues to cause death and suffering even today.

Besides, anyone going around assuming "virtuous" airs and graces over others, deserves to be called vain or pompous! :-)
@SW-User
"Religion invents a problem where none exists by describing the wicked as also made in the image of god and the sexually nonconformist as existing in a state of incurable mortal sin that can incidentally cause floods and earthquakes. How did such evil nonsense ever come to be so influential? And why are we so continually locked in combat with its violent and intolerant votaries? Well, religion was the race’s first (and worst) attempt to make sense of reality. It was the best the species could do at a time when we had no concept of physics, chemistry, biology or medicine. We did not know that we lived on a round planet, let alone that the said planet was in orbit in a minor and obscure solar system, which was also on the edge of an unimaginably vast cosmos that was exploding away from its original source of energy. We did not know that micro-organisms were so powerful and lived in our digestive systems in order to enable us to live, as well as mounting lethal attacks on us as parasites. We did not know of our close kinship with other animals. We believed that sprites, imps, demons, and djinns were hovering in the air about us. We imagined that thunder and lightning were portentous. It has taken us a long time to shrug off this heavy coat of ignorance and fear, and every time we do there are self-interested forces who want to compel us to put it back on again.”
― Christopher Hitchens, The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SW-User
ultimately meaningless

So what?

Deal with it
DocSavage · M
@SW-User
Bollocks !
Life has meaning to those living it. That is all you can expect.
Adstar · 56-60, M
The world is a stage set up by God as an arena for the great contraversy to be resolved..

So in a way it is a simulation so that scientist is on the right track.. Once this simulation achieves it's purpose there will be a New Heaven and a New earth because the old program will have passed away and will no longer be needed..
Adstar · 56-60, M
@ArishMell Does that mean people won't be needed either?


No longer needed to prove satans claim wrong.. But wanted by God for an eternal relationship..

@Rhode57 The way things are going humans are gonna not only wipe themselves out but the planet as a whole

Yes thats true.. But God will interviene before that happens.. Humans will be transformed before we reach that point..
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Adstar @Rhode57

I don't know Satan's claim, but neither do I believe in Satan anyway. I accept Christianity has a basic message about humans' relationship with its God, though.

Oh yes, humanity is indeed its own worst enemy. I agree there, but we won't drive ourselves into extinction. We might greatly reduce our numbers, by means good or nasty; but not wipe ourselves out completely. Ironically the people most able to survive any man-made apocalypse are those we rather arrogantly see as the least "civilised" or "advanced"!

Are you saying though, that your God made one huge mistake and is taking far too long to put it right? He's had about quarter of a million years so far but maybe that's not long enough, to work it out!
Adstar · 56-60, M
@ArishMell
I don't know Satan's claim

satan wanted to be the equal of God.. His claim was God was unjustified in being the One and only God of all existence.. satan wanted to prove God was unjustified and that satan was justified in being equal to God.. God of cause needed to demonstrate that satans claim was false.. Thus the Universe creation was created..

Oh yes, humanity is indeed its own worst enemy. I agree there, but we won't drive ourselves into extinction.

Oh i believe we would.. Either by nuclear disaster or even genetic manipulation disaster.. in one way or another our advancing technology and our human faultiness would combine to bring about one global disaster or another..

Ironically the people most able to survive any man-made apocalypse are those we rather arrogantly see as the least "civilised" or "advanced"!

This may have been true 100 years ago.. But once they started building hundreds of nuclear reactors all over the world a breakdown in civilization would see these reactors eventually deteriorate and fall apart letting lose enough radioactive contamination to sterilize the globe many hundreds of times over.. No cave man level human would survive that. indeed no complex life on the surface of earth would survive that..

Are you saying though, that your God made one huge mistake and is taking far too long to put it right?

No.. God foreknew all history from the moment He created the universe, He knew what satan would do and knew what he would do to redeem the situation and prove by demonstration to the other Angels why God is the only One who can be God.. And as for time God is an eternal being therefore what you are calling a long time is as nothing to Him.. It is a long time for you.. Even though you like all other human beings only experience one life time in this universe existence..

He's had about quarter of a million years so far but maybe that's not long enough, to work it out!

Actually He has it figured out already.. All that is left is to reach the number of people whom He foreknows will be accepting His solution.. I have no idea why God has a number in mind and i don't know how long it is going to take to fulfill that number,, But revelation reveals that there is a number that God is waiting for..
spjennifer · 61-69, T
"Sin" is the invention of a pious few who seek to control other Men and Women via religious fervor. Wasn't it supposed to be a sin for a woman to go to church on Sunday without a hat on just to give an example of so-called "sins" 😖
walabby · M
Isaiah 45:7 .. “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things".
Carazaa · F
@walabby AMEN!🙏
walabby · M
@Carazaa So, you're OK with God creating evil?
Carazaa · F
@walabby

He is just, so ofcourse! He won't stand by when people murder, he will send a curse on this land, he won't stand by when we curse him, he will not bless us.

Blessings for Obedience DEUTORNOMY 28

"28 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:

3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.

4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.

6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.

7 The Lord will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.

8 The Lord will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The Lord your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.

9 The Lord will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the Lord your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you. 11 The Lord will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you.

12 The Lord will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. 13 The Lord will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the Lord your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.

Curses for Disobedience
15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:

16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.

17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.

18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

20 The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a] 21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.

25 The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. 26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals, and there will be no one to frighten them away. 27 The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. 28 The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. 29 At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.

30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.

36 The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror, a byword and an object of ridicule among all the peoples where the Lord will drive you.

38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them. 40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off. 41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity. 42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.

43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail.

45 All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the Lord your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever. 47 Because you did not serve the Lord your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the Lord sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.

49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the Lord your God is giving you.

53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.

58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the Lord your God— 59 the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the Lord your God. 63 Just as it pleased the Lord to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you."
SW-User
I understand your sentiment but that is an extremely weird way to word it, nobody in tech speaks that way outside of a textbook
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SW-User It is not even that!

Proper technical language, especially in text-books, may be comprehensible only to its specialists, but is clear, coherent and concise.

That sermon makes me think of IT or insurance company's terms and conditions, written by someone trying use legalese.
karysma · 31-35, F
Reminds me of an interview with Mark Zuckerberg. [media=https://youtu.be/uoeV2aV2YX8]
karysma · 31-35, F
@Adstar Me too he's funny. I know him now thanks to you 😊. Sad thing he's leaving YouTube
Adstar · 56-60, M
@karysma Yeah the cencorship at Utube is just insane.. He is setting up alternate places.. I think he is creating his own site too..
karysma · 31-35, F
@Adstar I know right 🙄. I'll definitely go check him out if he creates a site of his own
Carazaa · F
I hearted your post but it showed a down thumb? Why? I will give it a smile instead. Even a smile gives me a down thumb. I meant to heart it, There is a "virus" on this site 😂
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Sounds like sci-fi circa 1930, not terribly cutting edge concept.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
Imagine using that many words to say nothing of any practical use.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@SpiritualMan God would not lie to my eyes. They are in fact, the same size.
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