The Book of Revelation tells us the woman with 12 stars above her head, her moon under her feet and Jupiter traveling, a sign Jesus is coming.
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SomeMichGuy · M
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy Please Yes. Please listen to this video 😜
SomeMichGuy · M
@Carazaa No, YOU need to look at ACTUAL scholarship.
Stop reposting the last thing you heard or saw. Stop going beyond the text, itself. Don't be a person helping to spread rumor.
You have seen through Trump, and I rejoice in that, for he has misled many.
But I ask you this: if we are at the brink of the end times, or just into them, WHAT can we do to alter the pre-ordained events? Nothing.
I know you are trying to be like John the Baptist...but just say his simple mesage: "Prepare ye the way of the Lord."
Or frame things as they *are*: put a Bible quote there and say, "This disturbs me because events like <say what you think aligns with the verses>. I believe that this means <your conclusion>."
That would be the truth. You are not God, and do not speak FOR Him, but OF Him. Yes, post your fears, warnings...but they are *your* interpretations of verses people have been wrestling with for nearly two full millenia. Note that others agree with you. But do you really think think that ANYone knows the hour of His coming?
Join me in praying for everyone to have greater discernment.
Stop reposting the last thing you heard or saw. Stop going beyond the text, itself. Don't be a person helping to spread rumor.
You have seen through Trump, and I rejoice in that, for he has misled many.
But I ask you this: if we are at the brink of the end times, or just into them, WHAT can we do to alter the pre-ordained events? Nothing.
I know you are trying to be like John the Baptist...but just say his simple mesage: "Prepare ye the way of the Lord."
Or frame things as they *are*: put a Bible quote there and say, "This disturbs me because events like <say what you think aligns with the verses>. I believe that this means <your conclusion>."
That would be the truth. You are not God, and do not speak FOR Him, but OF Him. Yes, post your fears, warnings...but they are *your* interpretations of verses people have been wrestling with for nearly two full millenia. Note that others agree with you. But do you really think think that ANYone knows the hour of His coming?
Join me in praying for everyone to have greater discernment.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
Did you even listen to the whole video? Please read your Bible and ask God for truth! I know him and I know truth. He is coming very soon.
Did you even listen to the whole video? Please read your Bible and ask God for truth! I know him and I know truth. He is coming very soon.
SomeMichGuy · M
@Carazaa Perhaps you are right. People have been saying this for many centuries.
I am not second-guessing God, I am simply trusting Him. I don't need to know the details, or to even go dowb the rabbit-hole/rat-hole of interpretation of prophecy, PARTICULARLY when scholars have widely agreed that the prophecies of the Book of Revelations can be adequately explained by the fall if the Roman Empire.
You might be correct. But what of it? People have been seeing things in prophecy for many centuries, and that wastes our time.
Pray for discernment that people will be led to a right *faith*, that their days will be better, that they might have Life in abundance and Everlasting, that they might cease to have scales over their eyes or to be misled. THAT aligns with Biblical teaching, without requiring anything of prophecies which are repurposed every day for uses other than those intended.
I am not second-guessing God, I am simply trusting Him. I don't need to know the details, or to even go dowb the rabbit-hole/rat-hole of interpretation of prophecy, PARTICULARLY when scholars have widely agreed that the prophecies of the Book of Revelations can be adequately explained by the fall if the Roman Empire.
You might be correct. But what of it? People have been seeing things in prophecy for many centuries, and that wastes our time.
Pray for discernment that people will be led to a right *faith*, that their days will be better, that they might have Life in abundance and Everlasting, that they might cease to have scales over their eyes or to be misled. THAT aligns with Biblical teaching, without requiring anything of prophecies which are repurposed every day for uses other than those intended.
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@SomeMichGuy
I'm not God either. and I don't believe in what she believes in. but I believe in decency. how dare you attack this woman for what she believes in? she didn't personally force anything down your throat; she just made a damn post. that's all. in the words of the Eagles: get over it. she's just living her life, live yours. I know we all have this "freedom of expression", but it's not meant to hurt someone in the process. jerk.
I'm not God either. and I don't believe in what she believes in. but I believe in decency. how dare you attack this woman for what she believes in? she didn't personally force anything down your throat; she just made a damn post. that's all. in the words of the Eagles: get over it. she's just living her life, live yours. I know we all have this "freedom of expression", but it's not meant to hurt someone in the process. jerk.
SomeMichGuy · M
SomeMichGuy · M
@Jeremi I'm not hurt. She and I actually are very close on beliefs.
The events of the past several years have shown how dangerous it is to try to replace the Bible with any human authority. I am merely counseling the OP to frame things more as her views of a complex subject (the meaning of prophecy), and to avoid reposting "yet another youtube video" which shrilly warns us.
In the end, if these things are/are on the verge of happening, none of our machinations will change that ordained timeline a jot or tittle.
But her approach is more likely to turn off people who might otherwise listen,in my view, because demanding people listen, asserting your own view of prophecy is *the* correct view...those are the sorts of "tones" which typically have been turning people away from religion & belief.
I am only counseling her to be more effective by modifying her tone and framing her opinion in these very consequential matters in a fashion which more closely represents the truth: that things she is reading concern her,in that they might be associated with important prophecies, and that *she* believes that they DO speak to the current relevance of the prophecies as a possible foretelling of "world historical events" in our very own lives.
I think she is of GREAT faith and very concerned about others, trying to wzrn them. Good for her! But a shift in presentation would be more effective.
And reading actual scholarship in this area would also help to put current events in a broader context.
I studied theology, so I am not just a typical "guy with an opinion", and we interact in part with specific references to specific Biblical texts.
The events of the past several years have shown how dangerous it is to try to replace the Bible with any human authority. I am merely counseling the OP to frame things more as her views of a complex subject (the meaning of prophecy), and to avoid reposting "yet another youtube video" which shrilly warns us.
In the end, if these things are/are on the verge of happening, none of our machinations will change that ordained timeline a jot or tittle.
But her approach is more likely to turn off people who might otherwise listen,in my view, because demanding people listen, asserting your own view of prophecy is *the* correct view...those are the sorts of "tones" which typically have been turning people away from religion & belief.
I am only counseling her to be more effective by modifying her tone and framing her opinion in these very consequential matters in a fashion which more closely represents the truth: that things she is reading concern her,in that they might be associated with important prophecies, and that *she* believes that they DO speak to the current relevance of the prophecies as a possible foretelling of "world historical events" in our very own lives.
I think she is of GREAT faith and very concerned about others, trying to wzrn them. Good for her! But a shift in presentation would be more effective.
And reading actual scholarship in this area would also help to put current events in a broader context.
I studied theology, so I am not just a typical "guy with an opinion", and we interact in part with specific references to specific Biblical texts.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
We are not close on beliefs if you don’t know your Bible and can tell the signs and know where we are in history! You are like the 5 virgins who are not ready and did not go to heaven. They thought they had time! They did not have time! The door closed on them!
We are not close on beliefs if you don’t know your Bible and can tell the signs and know where we are in history! You are like the 5 virgins who are not ready and did not go to heaven. They thought they had time! They did not have time! The door closed on them!