does anyone else find it difficult to have faith when the world is so awful xxxx
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TheWildEcho · 56-60, M
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ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Carazaa
I really don't know how people can be happy and have hope without God.
It's really not difficult. I've been doing it for all of my life, 66 and a bit years so far. Of course it helps to have good parents, good schools, and a society and government that tries to do the right thing. But these are all secular, mundane (in the old sense), things, all in the here and now. For all my life they have been sufficient, I have never felt the need for some 'higher power'.
Carazaa · F
@ninalanyon
1. Well then you must live in a country founded on protestandt Christian principles, not catholic, Muslim, Hindy, shintu, or Buddist.
2. These countries are fair and not suppressive, believe in equality just as Jesus said treat people with love and the way you want to be treated.
3. These Christian countries have less natural disasters, because God protects us.
BUT If a christian country leaves God, and people go after money, pleasure, sin, and other religions like paganism, atheism, hedonism, then God will leave them. And then they will have more disasters, poverty, crime, and eventually their enemies will overtake them. They will eventually be slaves to another country.
That is Gods word!
1. Well then you must live in a country founded on protestandt Christian principles, not catholic, Muslim, Hindy, shintu, or Buddist.
2. These countries are fair and not suppressive, believe in equality just as Jesus said treat people with love and the way you want to be treated.
3. These Christian countries have less natural disasters, because God protects us.
BUT If a christian country leaves God, and people go after money, pleasure, sin, and other religions like paganism, atheism, hedonism, then God will leave them. And then they will have more disasters, poverty, crime, and eventually their enemies will overtake them. They will eventually be slaves to another country.
That is Gods word!
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SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@Emosaur I'm not offended.
I'm just going to leave this here:
Scripture says that God is love: "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." - 1 John 4:8
And also gives the definition of love: "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away." - 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
But then it gives this description of God: "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." - Exodus 34:14
And then defines what jealousy does: "... for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me." - Exodus 20:5
So how can YHWH's name be jealous if his name is YHWH. Nor does the tetragrammaton mean jealous. Jealous means being afraid of losing something you have which conflicts with: "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1 John 4:17
So how can God who is love, fear and not be perfect in love?
Also the effect of God's jealousy is to hold grudges and curse the innocent for the actions of their ancestors which conflicts with all of 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Which sounds like self seeking and extremely conditional love that delights in evil.
This is why I say the verses you choose shows what kind of Christian you are. As there are parts for both good Christians and evil Christians.
Of course the evil ones will deny there is a conflict at all. But that shows who they really are.
Scripture says that God is love: "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." - 1 John 4:8
And also gives the definition of love: "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away." - 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
But then it gives this description of God: "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." - Exodus 34:14
And then defines what jealousy does: "... for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me." - Exodus 20:5
So how can YHWH's name be jealous if his name is YHWH. Nor does the tetragrammaton mean jealous. Jealous means being afraid of losing something you have which conflicts with: "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1 John 4:17
So how can God who is love, fear and not be perfect in love?
Also the effect of God's jealousy is to hold grudges and curse the innocent for the actions of their ancestors which conflicts with all of 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Which sounds like self seeking and extremely conditional love that delights in evil.
This is why I say the verses you choose shows what kind of Christian you are. As there are parts for both good Christians and evil Christians.
Of course the evil ones will deny there is a conflict at all. But that shows who they really are.
Carazaa · F
@canusernamebemyusername
You say
It is precisely because God hates evil that he does not tolerate a single sin in heaven. This is not hard to understand. A child can easily understand this. Jesus who is God in the flesh took all humanities sins on his shoulders so you can get in scot-free, bam!
You might think you have earned heaven, but you have not, you are doomed without Jesus amazing love!
Why do you think you have earned special treatment? No one has earned heaven! We all deserve hell!
You say
"sounds like self-seeking and extremely conditional love that delights in evil."
?It is precisely because God hates evil that he does not tolerate a single sin in heaven. This is not hard to understand. A child can easily understand this. Jesus who is God in the flesh took all humanities sins on his shoulders so you can get in scot-free, bam!
You might think you have earned heaven, but you have not, you are doomed without Jesus amazing love!
Why do you think you have earned special treatment? No one has earned heaven! We all deserve hell!
LadyGrace · 70-79
I think it is natural to be concerned, when we see so many changes happening in this world, so quickly. But that is just the time we most need to keep the faith and trust God to help us. The very time we need to stay in prayer. God is the only one who can help us right now. He is faithful to keep his promises. We just need to hold on together.
LadyGrace · 70-79
This world will always be full of challenges. The difference is whom we have our faith IN, that counts. We can sort of slip away from the Lord but when we realize our spirit is needing him and the fellowship, the Holy Spirit once again brings peace and comfort and joy to us.
Mandyfgrstbhj · 70-79, F
@Mandyfgrstbhj Or anyone that observes human nature could predict the same things.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@LeopoldBloom They also deleted all their comments.
LeopoldBloom · M
@LordShadowfire Right. I checked and I'm not blocked. The person just scuttled away like the coward they are.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@LeopoldBloom You caught them red-handed, is why.
LadyGrace · 70-79
Our spiritual strength comes from the Lord. The more we pray and draw spiritual food from His Word, the stronger we'll be.
i have not believed in god for a long time. when people say the world it 6000 years old and we find bones of things that are much older. that would be one of the untruths they tell.
Concerning the age of the Earth, the Bible's genealogical records combined with the Genesis 1 account of creation are used to estimate an age for the Earth and universe of about 6000 years,
and when christens have a better than tho attitude over ones who believe in a different god like muslum or hindu or the other religions. and i am learning buddhism.
Thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;
and really who KILLED more people god or the devil . and god did
for if you believe in god for he wiped out the world and that would mean babies women children men who never did harm to any person at all..
why would i want to believe . and i try to stay out of this because of the back lash that the so called christens will do
Concerning the age of the Earth, the Bible's genealogical records combined with the Genesis 1 account of creation are used to estimate an age for the Earth and universe of about 6000 years,
and when christens have a better than tho attitude over ones who believe in a different god like muslum or hindu or the other religions. and i am learning buddhism.
Thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me;
and really who KILLED more people god or the devil . and god did
for if you believe in god for he wiped out the world and that would mean babies women children men who never did harm to any person at all..
why would i want to believe . and i try to stay out of this because of the back lash that the so called christens will do
OldBrit · 61-69, M
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Carazaa · F
@LordShadowfire Wake up and read God's word 😇
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Carazaa Read it clear through.
Three times.
Then I started researching the origins of each of the 66 books included in the current official Bible, as well as the 12 extra biblical texts.
What else ya got?
Three times.
Then I started researching the origins of each of the 66 books included in the current official Bible, as well as the 12 extra biblical texts.
What else ya got?
Carazaa · F
@LordShadowfire Don't lie 😂
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I find it difficult to follow any religious faith full-stop, although I accept it can bring mental comfort to those in danger, and apparently also to those who pray for them... even though it makes not a blind bit of practical difference.
Having written thus I do appreciate that a lot of religious institutions also do what they can practically, mainly by organising charity appeals for disaster-relief funds and/or goods.
Having written thus I do appreciate that a lot of religious institutions also do what they can practically, mainly by organising charity appeals for disaster-relief funds and/or goods.
littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M
@Nanori 😔
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LeopoldBloom · M
IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M
Dshhh · M
i dont do faith, I believe what i see, and be ready for it. Humanity has an uphill battle
Dshhh · M
@Adstar i have read many version of the old and new testament.
that a thing effects people does not mean it is real
Millions of people are affected by the Zodiac. all bullshit
and if you ARE a christian you CANNOT support Astrology
Leviticus 19:26
‘You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor practice divination or soothsaying
Isaiah 47:13-15
“You are wearied with your many counsels;
Let now the astrologers,
Those who prophesy by the stars,
Those who predict by the new moons,
Stand up and save you from what will come upon you.
“Behold, they have become like stubble,
Fire burns them;
what have we seen? entire nations decimated in the name of JVHJ
geocode, slavery, rape and destruction all at the behest of JVHJ
so how about Jese? who taught he had come to wach all that away?
show me "christians" that reject the old testament.
show me ANY WORKS by ANY PERSON who knew Jesus in the flesh.
the "gospls" were not written down for hundreds of years
we know not where they come from
that a thing effects people does not mean it is real
Millions of people are affected by the Zodiac. all bullshit
and if you ARE a christian you CANNOT support Astrology
Leviticus 19:26
‘You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor practice divination or soothsaying
Isaiah 47:13-15
“You are wearied with your many counsels;
Let now the astrologers,
Those who prophesy by the stars,
Those who predict by the new moons,
Stand up and save you from what will come upon you.
“Behold, they have become like stubble,
Fire burns them;
what have we seen? entire nations decimated in the name of JVHJ
geocode, slavery, rape and destruction all at the behest of JVHJ
so how about Jese? who taught he had come to wach all that away?
show me "christians" that reject the old testament.
show me ANY WORKS by ANY PERSON who knew Jesus in the flesh.
the "gospls" were not written down for hundreds of years
we know not where they come from
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Thorstormbringer · M
Me. It is very distressing to me personally to hear of or read of the terrible carnage in the Ukraine, especially to innocent civilians: vhildten, babies, everyone…
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karysma · 31-35, F
@Thorstormbringer Same here. All we can do right now is pray for them. Heard some people in Ukraine where experiencing supernatural manifestation of God's protection.
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ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@karysma
For instance the country in which I live (and pay taxes etc.) has taken in a thousand Ukrainian refugees, Poland has taken in nearly a million so far.
These refugees need food, shelter, visas, money, schools for their children, and jobs.
All we can do right now is pray for them.
I'm pretty sure we can do more than that, or we can at least hope that those who govern in our name will do more than that.For instance the country in which I live (and pay taxes etc.) has taken in a thousand Ukrainian refugees, Poland has taken in nearly a million so far.
These refugees need food, shelter, visas, money, schools for their children, and jobs.
littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M
World is how we see it. Yes there are good things and bad things. The key how we face it and be strong enough to fight against the bad and protect our loved ones.
Axelerator · 31-35, M
Anyone with some reason would find it difficult i think.
joggie · 36-40, M
yes, babe but there is always a way out
contact me if you wanna know
contact me if you wanna know
Thorstormbringer · M
Me! So much evil loose right now: Ukraine, etc.!
TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M
In people? yes. In myself? No.
ExperienceDLT · M
Sometimes
496sbc · 36-40, M
totally
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
angie8819 · 56-60, F
Yes
richa · 36-40, M
Yep