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Creation versus Evolution. Why evolution is not sufficient to prove Bible wrong?

Bible is the holy book of Christians. It is nothing but the word of God.
Christianity should be considered for its historical viability.

We, Christians believe that God created the earth and the universe. Estimated age of earth is ~6000 years old. Some may argue that earth is billions of years old. We can term as old earth theory. But it is illogical to conclude something or question Bible without asking sufficient questions. Often people get carried away by some evidence and come to a conclusion. Evidence should be complemented by logical reasoning.

Everyone agree that Adam and Eve were the first humans created by God. When both Adam and Eve were created did they appear one day old. No. They were created as adults. Conclusions without logical reasoning and asking every possible questions are not sufficient to prove Bible wrong. Remember Bible is nothing but the word of God. Human ideas are also evolving and our science and research is improving day by day. It may not be perfect today but it may be more perfect tomorrow. Improvement is an ongoing process and perfection is never attained. Only God is perfect. Everything else is in transition. We need to ask do cosmology, geology and other sciences have evolved enough to prove Bible wrong? My belief in Jesus, our only savior helps me confidently say that Bible can never be wrong. It may be difficult for many to understand, but belief in God empowers logical reasoning.

About evolutions, can it prove Bible wrong? No. True that living beings may adapt to the environment. Let us agree that adaptations are genetically heritable and it is heritable across different environments. This is just an accumulation of data. That addresses What part of the phenomenon. But logical reasoning enables us to think about how and why ?
Why does genes behave in a particular way way ? Why does it adapt? Was it designed that way ? This is where creation/creator comes into picture. Without asking sufficient questions evolution or transitional forms is an incomplete understanding. Evolution by itself may not stand out, it may need a force to drive it.

The entire life on earth is driven by one force and I need not repeat it!

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wildbill83 · 41-45, M

the great irony; evolutionists reject creation on the basis that isn't "scientific", then propose a theory that completely ignores scientific method.

In other words, their "scientific" explanation isn't based on fact, it's based on belief/faith...

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DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
Where did you get that idea ? Evolution takes several generations, but it has been preform in labs using bacteria. And with DNA it’s a lot easier to show evidence of it.
Can you show as much for creationism ?

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@DocSavage where's your proof that humans "evolved" from a lesser lifeform? (or any complex organism for that matter)

simple, there isn't any.

DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
You wouldn’t happen to be related Godspeed63 would you ?
He also denied DNA and fossil evidence. Despite there being boxcar loads of transitional fossils on record.
So, for the sake of curiosity, what would you considered evidence? Are you expecting one animal to suddenly change into another, or for people to magically grow wings ?

BlueSkyKing · M

@wildbill83 You must have failed all your science classes in school. Or as a slave to superstition not looking for or wanting a rational explanation. The same steps of the scientific method apply to evolution or electronics. Don’t see you asking for evidence that your cell phone doesn’t require magic to work.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@BlueSkyKing I hold two engineering degrees actually, and have worked on projects more complicated than your feeble mind could comprehend...

DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
And yet you still don’t understand evolution, amazing

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@DocSavage and yet, you still can't provide proof without resorting to petty insults, amazing...

sputnik · 70-79, M

@wildbill83

humans "evolved" from a lesser lifeform

What do you mean by ‘lesser’? Are you making the common creationist error of assuming that humans are somehow the acme of evolution? Do you understand that evolution has no target? It’s not trying to get somewhere, and each generation of each species doesn’t have to be ideal, it just has to be good enough to replicate

if you think that a bacterium is a ‘lesser’ species, then try ingesting Vibrio Cholerae and see if you can survive the resulting cholera

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@sputnik how many bacteria do you know that are self aware, are capable of reason, are artists, scientists, engineers, etc.?

sputnik · 70-79, M

@wildbill83 And they make you superior to bacteria how? You are setting human-centered criteria and measuring every other species against them, but why should they be the criteria for anything?

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@sputnik if you honestly believe that a turd is as biologically advanced as a human, then you're too much of an idiot to argue with and not worth my time...

DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
Sorry chuckle head. No one said evolution was limited to humans. Other life forms evolved too. It a survival thing. Humans evolved and achieved intelligence and reason.
Bacteria just needs to thrive in it’s environment and reproduce. Modification is the name of the game. We got the bonus.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@DocSavage

Humans evolved and achieved intelligence and reason.

Apparently you and sputnik didn't the way you keep contradicting each other and yourselves... 🤔

sputnik · 70-79, M

@wildbill83

biologically advanced

There you go again. Tell me, what does 'biologically advanced’ mean?

DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
So tell us chowder head . What part don’t you get ?
We’re happy to address your questions, but as is typical with arrogant, uneducated Christians, you refuse to state your position. Instead you hide behind insults which only show you ignorance. Ask an honest question, get an honest answer. Are you afraid ?

BlueSkyKing · M

@wildbill83 It’s your say-so about having the degrees. You can’t prove this. It's possible but how can we confirm? Creationism has an equal validity to astrology. Both require blind belief and impossible to test.

You do know how to apply the scientific method? It equally applies to biology and engineering. Physical evidence is needed that is detectable, measurable, and testable. Repeatedly. Also falsification is a major part. Evolution has passes it all. Nothing else comes close.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@BlueSkyKing Scientific Method
a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

aka; Observable, Testable, Repeatable

Theory of evolution doesn't meet either of those prerequisites

And the father of modern Scientific Method & empiricism? Sir Francis Bacon, a devout Christian...

sputnik · 70-79, M

@wildbill83

aka; Observable, Testable, Repeatable

where did the a.k.a. come from?

DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
So tell us then. Where is the scientific method supporting creationism ? Evolution has evidence. It can be observed. The mechanism is understood. It works. Creationism doesn’t. It’s based on belief in a supernatural force which also can’t be subjected to the scientific method. So if you only arguments against evolution is that it can’t meet you version of testable evidence, then god, the Bible, and creationism fall in to the same fold.
All you got is your fairytale. That’s not very compelling.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@DocSavage AGAIN, FAITH doesn't require proof... hence the name... faith.

Please do try to keep up... 🙄

sputnik · 70-79, M

@wildbill83 So just making up something is a great way to understand the universe? 😂😂

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@sputnik you tell me, that's basically what big bang theory & theory of evolution is...

Hence why they're Theories... aka, made up...

BlueSkyKing · M

@wildbill83 Are we supposed to start a quote exchange? Plenty of famous people say they became atheists after reading the Bible. Science is not a democracy, it has an annoying habit of working.

Of all the discoveries of science, is there a single that can be credited to magical beliefs? Evolution still works no matter which location on Earth you’re born on and what religion your parents are. What you believe is connected to where and when you are born.

DocSavage · M

@wildbill83
As many will tell you. A theory is the best you get in science. Nothing is 100% but theory is close. It’s composed of facts, and provides a working model. It changes only when new information is added, but it stand up to testing. And doesn’t fail.
You will notice god doesn’t rank anything near a theory.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@DocSavage

A theory is the best you get in science. Nothing is 100% but theory is close.

There wasn't anything "close" about people believing the Earth was flat or that it was the center of the universe for thousands of years... 🤔

- The guy who proved it was round...

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