The thing I don't get about Lily Allen having an abortion is...

@OogieBoogie Is it her business when she tells people about it? Would you say this invites others to share their thoughts?

@sascha you know ....I [b]was [/b]thinking about this last night -why the hell did she let people know she was even making this choice ?

Maybe she did it out of vanity for the attention?
Maybe she did it to support other women who make this choice ?

And you're right - it does invite discussion...if one chooses to pick it up.
But I still don't think anyone gets to say what a person chooses to do in this situation, or judge.

Some women choose not to for a mutlitude of reasons.

@OogieBoogie This was during the aftermath of the historic, and right, overturning of Roe v. Wade. She felt that we may want to know about her having an abortion, saying that women do not need to "justify" their decision. She used the word "fucking" before "baby", and that makes her a bad person in my eyes. If you don't want a ******* baby, you should use contraception. They aren't ours to toy with and freely kill when we wish. If you want to get fucked without the use of the pill or other forms of contraception, you should look after the children it creates.

@sascha I'm not getting into a debate about it.

I know the decision I would make for myself - I've been in that situation.
I just believe that every woman has the right to make the own choice on this within certain parameters of gestation of course .
And contraception effectiveness ranges on the type, and none are 100% proof

So making suck claims is illogical

@OogieBoogie Suck claims? Maybe she should have been doing more sucking.

Contraception is highly effective when used correctly. There are long-lasting forms available now.

@sascha most basic contracetptions are only 98% effective . Insertives are about 99% ...and thats [b]if [/b] your body can handle them.

Highly effective isnt the same as completely effective. I know . I fell into that 2%>

Besides ....says a woman who has joined a forum on 'bare back sex' . Here you advocating contraception, but also the above .
Contradictory a little bit id say.

Besides ....nunya.

You're as bad as he is thinking you have any right to judge or dictate to others .

Look to yourself . No one else is your business.

@OogieBoogie They are all around 99% if used correctly. Pregnancy after the correct use of contraception is very rare.

Why wouldn't I be in a forum for bareback sex? I love bareback sex, and would never have an abortion. Where is the contradiction?

Is the original poster your business? Why do you care about what he or others think?

An embryo or fetus are human. The natural consequence is that you are killing another human, a human who wants and needs you, when you abort.

@sascha hey, you do you .
And if you like to have sex and get pregnant all the time - that's your jam.
The contradiction is that you are telling women to use contraception while you have unprotected sex ...it just seems ....a little hippocritical in a way .

Some women want lives beyond adding to the already burgeoning population of humanity .

But if that what you want ....go for it .

@OogieBoogie Women should use contraception if they do not want children, and are inclined to have an abortion. Condoms are sometimes used as a contraceptive, but no doctor would tell you to only use that if you are trying to avoid pregnancy. They tell you to use the pill or another contraceptive.

Do you think I'm telling you to have bareback sex as well? What kind of silly, female logic is that? I say I like bareback sex, but it's a contradiction because I dislike abortion? A drunk who spends most of his life inebriated would make more sense. Someone who has just got out of a coma and who can barely talk or remember their name has better things to say.

Adding to humanity is what you are supposed to do. We can invent our own reasons for being here, but this is our purpose.

@sascha I never said that you told me to have bareback sex.
As I said ...you do you .
And insult me all you want ....as least I don't have to lower myself to that level.

Believe what what you want .
Some are made for greater or different purposes.
Evidently you feel you aren't - and thats ok.

@OogieBoogie Greater purposes? What could possibly be a greater purpose?

I asked that because you seem to think it is a contradiction. It is not.

@sascha you believe what you want to believe, if that makes you feel comfortable with your existence and way of life - all good.

However, it is a contradctiction, when you advocate and dictate one thing for others - but do another yourself.
Your life is your life....it's your choice .
Other people's lives are their choice.

And no matter what you say, Believe, think, or do, is gonna change that🤷

@OogieBoogie What am I doing myself? Explain the contradiction.

@sascha if you don't know what you do, or what you wrote, then this conversation is over as I'm not going explain myself [b]and [/b] you, for you.

Nice chat .👍

@sascha oh look ....there's those insults again 👍.
You're quite good at them. You must use them a lot in your arguments 🤗

Be a darlin' and throw me some more 💋
....but maybe , you know ..... aim higher - try for two [b]different[/b] ones instead of repeating the same one twice .✌️☺️