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A message to the women on here:

Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised. - Proverbs 31:30
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Ablackbunny · 31-35, F
Not my cup of tea, but hey you do you. I'm sure the message resonates, and possibly even confirms and strengthens someones faith.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
Only Christians would take this advice to heart.
Not because it's declared here by you,but because they believe it to be true.
Men also have responsibilities according to Christian beliefs,but I would find it almost useless to declare on a platform such as this to those who don't believe what those responsibilities are.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@ArishMell I don't believe he understands what I'm trying to say and so he just condemns me.
The verse may be true that doesn't mean you should declare to every woman on the internet to "listen up"
Christ was very gentle, for instance, with the woman at the well.
He spoke the truth but he did so in love
Freeindeed · 31-35, M
@Justmeraeagain Complete projection. You're the one who seems like a modern day pharisee, as the pharisees were known for rejecting and not believing in God's word. They tried to evade the scriptures and instead followed their own traditions.

When I see the word fear, I believe that it actually means fear because that is what the Bible says. I just read the Bible and believe what it says. Yes, we also should have respect and awe for God, but fear still means fear. We actually need to fear God. You are not just reading it and believing it, you are redefining words that you do not like because they are not pleasant to you.

Psalm 2:11 - Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Ephesians 6:5 - Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

FEAR AND TREMBLING. That's fear. Sounds like fear means fear.

You go directly against the Bible when you said this to someone else on this post:
I believe it to be respect and awe, not shaking in your boots.

Shaking is literally trembling.

Let me show you an example of the pharisees in the Bible rejecting God's word because it wasn't pleasant to them:

Matthew 15:1-6 - Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

What is ironic is that people like you would call us Bible believing Christians Pharisees for believing in capital punishment, when the pharisees are the ones who were going against it and Jesus Christ confirmed his support of it! Because Jesus is God and God is the author of the Bible and His word supports the death penalty all throughout.

It is very typical today for pharisees to call Bible believing Christians pharisees because they haven't a clue what the Bible actually says. They have no idea what they're talking about.

Also, I don't condemn you. I am telling you the truth. But you did condemn me by falsely accusing me and hypocritically calling me a pharisee when you have no proof or ground to do so.

I did speak the truth in love. I just shared a Bible verse to help women.

Goodbye.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
DrWatson · 70-79, M
Other translations have "beauty is fleeting", which makes more sense to me. Beauty is merely a characteristic. It cannot have vanity.

On the other hand, a person can be vain or not, regardless of how beautiful they are.
No thanks to all that
We’re on a date and I’m walking out.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
Im sure they will have that top of mind
@Freeindeed Yes. But we do not turn our noses up at children born out of marriage, they are not here by accident.
Freeindeed · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I never turned my nose up at them, as it is obviously not their fault. They are to be loved and cared for like any other child. I am simply speaking the truth about the serious sin of fornication and its effects on society. Please stop misrepresenting me.
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Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find? The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him. Proverbs 20: 6-7
Freeindeed · 31-35, M
@nonsensiclesnail Jesus Christ said in Matthew 19:17, "...there is none good but one, that is, God"

The only good in me is God in me. I am only righteous because Jesus Christ's righteousness has been imputed unto me when I believed in Him. I am nothing without Jesus Christ. All glory, honour and praise goes to the Lord Jesus Christ. All of our own righteousness are as filthy rags. Many are ignorant of this and go about to establish their own righteousness and trust in themselves and their own works, which leads them to Hell.

Isaiah 64:6 - But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Romans 10:3 - For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 - - For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Titus 3:5-7 - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
@Freeindeed Salvation is a gift of grace, given through faith in Jesus Christ—not something we can earn or achieve on our own (Ephesians 2:8-9). The righteousness we have comes from Him alone, not from anything we do.

But when we walk with Christ, His Spirit moves through us, shaping us from the inside out. Just like a tree naturally bears fruit when it’s healthy, a heart rooted in Him will start to reflect His goodness (John 15:5). It’s not about striving for righteousness—it’s about letting Him work through us.

Paul puts it perfectly in 2 Corinthians 5:17: “If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away, and all things have become new.” This transformation isn’t about proving anything—it’s about living in the freedom of Christ (Galatians 2:20).

Without Him, we’re nothing. But because of His grace, we’re called to live in a way that reflects His love and truth (Titus 2:11-12). Faith without works is dead (James 2:17), not because works save us, but because real faith naturally leads to a life that honors Him.

At the end of the day, all the glory goes to Jesus. Because of Him, we are made new and we get to walk in His light every single day.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I see - live in permanent fear of something and you'll be fine. Not necessarily free, indeed, though.
Freeindeed · 31-35, M
@ArishMell Yes, free, just not the Aleister Crowley "Do what thou wilt" do whatever you want freedom, which isn't really freedom at all, but bondage that leads to degeneracy, hedonism and mental health problems. The type of unlimited freedom that turned America into one giant shopping mall. That is the "freedom" you're speaking of.

The Bible says in Galatians 5:13, "For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another."

And in 1 Peter 2:16, "As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God."
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Freeindeed I said nothing about encouraging untrammelled behaviour. I do not condone that. Nor do I like the excessive commercialising of everything either. Of course there are responsibilities too, primarily that you do not willingly harm others. As seems the spirit of St. Peter's instruction - and you do not need believe in supernatural beings to follow the first two clauses.

Besides, who wants to live a life of servitude to anyone, let alone of improvable existence? I am not a monk! :-)


You though seem to want a rigid, joyless, cruel totalitarianism bringing all manner of serious harm to others, by your personal prejudices including anti-Jewish, excused by your bizarre coupling of Mein Kampf and ancient Jewish religious texts as your template.


Of course I could have totally misinterpreted you, and your original message is really entirely satirical, albeit in rather poor taste!

As for Aleister Crowley, so what? He is best-known only as a past fantasy-novelist! I think he was said to have been part of a circle of friends fascinated by silly ideas of ghosts and ghoulies and things that go bump in the night, but that's all. He probably stirred up the moaners and complainers and amateur-moralists of his time but I think he's largely long-forgotten now, and certainly not taken seriously. I have not read any of his books but only because they don't arouse my curiosity, and I don't suppose they were very well-written. I would not refuse them on any spurious "morality" grounds though, because they are only fantasies.
Freeindeed · 31-35, M
@ArishMell
You though seem to want a rigid, joyless, cruel totalitarianism bringing all manner of serious harm to others, by your personal prejudices including anti-Jewish, excused by your bizarre coupling of Mein Kampf and ancient Jewish religious texts as your template.

And on top of your promotion of false freedom, which you are desperately trying to explain away, now you are lying about me.

The point has eluded you. True joy and happiness comes from serving the Lord and serving one another, which is true freedom. The false, hedonistic freedom that you are promoting is actually what leads to rigid, joyless, cruel totalitarianism. When people take advantage of freedom and misuse it, that is ALWAYS what leads to totalitarian regimes. And since you bring up Mein Kampf, the kind of false freedom that you love that was expressed in Weimar, Germany is precisely what brought about Hitler's Totalitarian Regime to clean up Germany. YES, YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM CREATED NAZI, GERMANY.

Also, I NEVER coupled Mein Kampf with the Bible. Not once.

Adolf Hitler was a dark occultist and was not a Christian. In fact, he hated Christianity and spoke very badly of it behind closed doors and I condemn him.

Just because I speak the truth about WW2 and that time period does not make me pro-hitler and pro-mein kampf. I know it is hard in our post-truth world, but learn how to think critically.

As for Aleister Crowley, so what? He is best-known only as a past fantasy-novelist! I think he was said to have been part of a circle of friends fascinated by silly ideas of ghosts and ghoulies and things that go bump in the night, but that's all. He probably stirred up the moaners and complainers and amateur-moralists of his time but I think he's largely long-forgotten now, and certainly not taken seriously. I have not read any of his books but only because they don't arouse my curiosity, and I don't suppose they were very well-written. I would not refuse them on any spurious "morality" grounds though, because they are only fantasies.

Also, Aleister Crowley was far more than a fantasy novelist. You need to do more research. He was a wicked man, a satanist who was involved in occult rituals and magic, achieving altered states of consciousness through psychedelic drug use (a forerunner of Timothy Leary, which Timothy Leary even admitted that he was continuing the work of Crowley) and other means, and founded the luciferian religion of Thelema. He wanted to destroy everything good and holy and he was very open about that.
HumanEarth · F
Hebrews 4

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
You realize you walked right into Satan's employment office
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
@CestManan he has his work cut out for him on here...
CestManan · 46-50, F
@MyNameIsHurl Oh yeah. But I know he got hired because a little while ago I was texting with Satan, he left me on read, but just now he said, "Sorry about that, I just had to do some paperwork for a new hire."

I am going to say, "Well go easy on him his first couple days."
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
@CestManan I don't work for Satan, I'm just visiting
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Go tell it to your mamma
Most organized religions don’t value women, and this is a perfect example. If only women must fear God, he clearly has no love for them. 😞


Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard
I believe it to be respect and awe, not shaking in your boots.
Because perfect love does cast out fear.
Like a parent whom you fear a little, but respect more.
Then He pardons you when you ask and out of respect you do as he wishes.
Christ was gentle with women, even spending time with women most of the society at that time would have condemned.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ArishMell I've just gone back to his profile to see what you're talking about. When someone says the world would be a better place if Hitler had won WWII then all discussion must come to an end. Thanks for the alert.
Freeindeed · 31-35, M
@ArishMell Clearly you didn't read the post. I didn't celebrate the regime. I was condemning America for getting involved and siding with the Soviet Union - Communists (who were worse and killed even more people) and hence has contributed to the spread of communism in the West now.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Freeindeed Thank you for clarifying that point.

1. There were three alternatives for the USA: stay neutral over Europe (still having Japan to contend with) and risk letting Nazi Germany triumph with terrible consequences on all sides.

2. Taking advantage of Stalin and Hitler having turned against each other, side with Russia and what became "Western" Europe to defeat the Nazis. Then turn against the USSR and prolong the war against an invincible country; with ever worse consequences for all..

3. As 2) then come to a terrible accommodation with the USSR and NATO as potential enemies in which sadly, peace meant sacrificing half of Europe to the Communist rather than Nazi jack-boot for an indeterminable future.

So they went for 3. knowing the USSR wanted world domination, and spending the next few decades at "peace" with neither side trusting the other, and trying to undermine each other. In the event the Russian Second Empire collapsed from within, but no-one could have seen that coming. Previous attempts to throw off Soviet rule had ended in brutal crack-downs.

The outcome was that Communism did not spread beyond the 1945 boundary, but I have seen from many posts on here that a lot of Americans appear to believe modern Europe is somehow almost "Communist".

 
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