A message to the women on here:

@Justmeraeagain Only a particular kind of Christian who likes to pick little tit-bits from the Bible out of context to prove a point that was never intended.

@FreddieUK You spelled "A Christian who actually reads his Bible and just believes it" incorrectly. There's no way of getting around the verse above, like you are trying to do, as is typical of modern, professing Christians. The statement is as clear as the nose on your face and it is not out of context.

Since you don't seem to understand what out of context means, allow me to provide you with a very common example:

When Christians will attempt to condemn all judgement by quoting "Judge not, that ye be not judged." and just stop there, when it goes on to say in verse 2, "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

So, in reality, it is only condemning hypocritical judgement, not judgement in general, as God's word tell us in John 7:24, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." and in 1 Corinthians 2:15, "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

The verse I have posted, however, stands on its own as true that favor is indeed deceitful and beauty is indeed vain and obviously a woman that fears the Lord shall indeed be praised.

@Freeindeed I must agree with you that in itself those words are completely and incontrovertibly true. The issue is, does one use them to deny that this is also true of men? Is there some implication by you posting these words that women have a duty to 'fear the Lord' that men don't? As I said context within the whole Bible is everything and selecting tiny bits, does not always help people to see what the main message is.

@FreddieUK When did I ever say or indicate that this is not also true of men and that men don't also have a duty to fear the Lord? Why would you even assume that? Just like God in his word after making said statement about women doesn't always have to say right after the verse "OH AND THIS IS TRUE OF MEN ALSO" because it is a given, I don't have to, as I am posting about a particular subject that is on my mind right now that is addressed to women to help them. By your logic or lack thereof, I can never just post about one given subject at a time. I have been observing some of the women on here and their photos and I can see that they have an obsession with fashion and materialism and are quite self-absorbed and narcissistic. So, I am trying to help them rise above that.

Also, generally it is women who struggle with the beauty thing more than men and they are the ones who need to hear "beauty is vain" because the hyper-focus on beauty and appearance is more of an issue for women.

@Justmeraeagain I would say a genuine Christian would reject his racism, mysoginy and neo-Nazism totally! As would anyone living a good life in Christian terms (i.e. in treating other people) without actually needing believe in God.

@Freeindeed
I don't want to prolong an argument over something that in the end I suspect the basics of which we agree on, but if look around at the modern world I see vanity over appearance very much a thing that men and women stumble over. Look at the ads for men's grooming products and clothing and I think they are as bad. I guess my sensitivity is around the continual preaching to women by men and the way certain sections of the Church try to blame women for sins that men get away with.

@FreddieUK Men are becoming more vain as well.

@Freeindeed and you seem like a modern day Pharisee but since we don't know each other maybe we shouldn't assume this?

@Freeindeed could care less about appearance except for taking care of myself

@ArishMell I don't believe he understands what I'm trying to say and so he just condemns me.
The verse may be true that doesn't mean you should declare to every woman on the internet to "listen up"
Christ was very gentle, for instance, with the woman at the well.
He spoke the truth but he did so in love

@Justmeraeagain Complete projection. You're the one who seems like a modern day pharisee, as the pharisees were known for rejecting and not believing in God's word. They tried to evade the scriptures and instead followed their own traditions.

When I see the word fear, I believe that it actually means fear because that is what the Bible says. I just read the Bible and believe what it says. Yes, we also should have respect and awe for God, but fear still means fear. We actually need to fear God. You are not just reading it and believing it, you are redefining words that you do not like because they are not pleasant to you.

Psalm 2:11 - Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Ephesians 6:5 - Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

FEAR AND TREMBLING. That's fear. Sounds like fear means fear.

You go directly against the Bible when you said this to someone else on this post:
Shaking is literally trembling.

Let me show you an example of the pharisees in the Bible rejecting God's word because it wasn't pleasant to them:

Matthew 15:1-6 - Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

What is ironic is that people like you would call us Bible believing Christians Pharisees for believing in capital punishment, when the pharisees are the ones who were going against it and Jesus Christ confirmed his support of it! Because Jesus is God and God is the author of the Bible and His word supports the death penalty all throughout.

It is very typical today for pharisees to call Bible believing Christians pharisees because they haven't a clue what the Bible actually says. They have no idea what they're talking about.

Also, I don't condemn you. I am telling you the truth. But you did condemn me by falsely accusing me and hypocritically calling me a pharisee when you have no proof or ground to do so.

I did speak the truth in love. I just shared a Bible verse to help women.

Goodbye.

@Freeindeed bye