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And you thought the balk and infield fly rules were difficult to understand?

Pitch clock, stepping off the mound and other timing matters

• The catcher must be in the catcher’s box with nine seconds left on the timer.

• The hitter must have both feet set in the batter’s box and be “alert to the pitcher” — meaning he has his eyes on the pitcher, and can quickly take a hitting stance — within eight seconds.

• The timer starts when the pitcher has the ball, and the catcher and the batter are in the dirt near home plate and play is ready — meaning, runners have retreated if there was a foul ball, or exited the field after an out. (The pitch timer starts with the second pitch of the game.)

• In between batters, there is a 30-second clock, except for the final out of an inning. The timer for inning breaks and pitching changes is 2 minutes, 15 seconds.

• Pitchers who violate the clock are charged with an automatic ball. If a catcher violates the clock, an automatic ball is charged as well. Batters in violation receive an automatic strike. Umpires can also award a ball or strike if they detect a player circumventing the clocks, and the commissioner’s office could issue discipline beyond that to teams whose players or staff violate rules, as well.

• Pitchers can step off the mound for a pickoff or any other reasons — a “disengagement” it’s called — twice per plate appearance if there is a runner on base. But, if a runner advances during the same plate appearance, i.e., by stealing a base, the pitcher gets another two step-offs. Stepping off resets the clock to its full time (20 or 15 seconds depending on whether a runner is on).

• If a pitcher steps off a third time or more, the penalty depends on what happens. If the runners are safe, the pitchers are charged with a balk. If an out is recorded, like on a successful pickoff, no balk is charged. No balk is charged if a runner advances, either.

• If the defense requests time, a disengagement is assessed to the pitcher, with several exceptions, including mound meetings, an object on the field, injuries, or an appeal. Catchers giving signals to infielders doesn’t count as a disengagement as long as the catcher is back by nine seconds.

• Pitcher requests for a new baseball with nine seconds or more remaining on the pitch timer do not count as a disengagement, but do if there are less than nine seconds.

• Mound visits have a 30-second clock starting when the manager or coach leaves the dugout, or whenever the defensive player leaves their position. If a manager joined a mound visit in progress, the timer resets if there are at least 20 seconds left on the timer. The umpire has discretion to grant additional time if a manager or coach is dealing with a physical ailment. There is no timer if a trainer goes out with the manager or coach for “a bona fide medical issue.”

• Teams can newly get an additional mound visit in the ninth inning only (it is not carried over if unused to extra innings) if it has used up its allotment of mound visits previously.

• Batters can ask for and be granted time once per plate appearance, and have to ask for time orally. That resets the pitch clock. A batter who requests time a second time or more in the same plate appearance is to be charged with a strike — unless the batter stays in the batter’s box, then the umpire has discretion as to whether to charge a strike.

• The length of batter walk-up music cannot exceed 10 seconds. Music between pitches is to be limited so hitters aren’t encouraged to leave the box.

• “Extended inning events,” like the playing of “God Bless America,” or anything that stops all action in the ballpark, requires approval from the commissioner’s office, and advance notice of those approved events has to go to the MLBPA.

• The pitch timer cannot be reviewed on replay.

• Umpires have sole discretion to direct the start, stop or reset of the timer if the clock operator makes a mistake or a special circumstance applies, such as a catcher not having enough time to put on equipment after running the bases or a medical concern. (They would reset the clock to 20 or 15 seconds).

All the arguments over implementation should REALLY speed up the game. How much longer can we afford Manfred as Commissioer?
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
OMG, I finally heard one announcer finally acknowledge that it will still take an ump to call a ball on a pitcher taking too much time, and what ump is going to want to stick absolutely to the clock in a bases-loaded situation (like the one he was covering in a playoff game with the game on the line). What ump wants to decide the game and the playoffs himself? Doubt we will see that announcer again. Manfred will banish him to the international audience -- or that portion of the international audience willing to pay the previously never-announced additional fees for post-season games. Way to grow the game! I guess it is part of that "vision of baseball's future" that the rest of us are just blind to.
Ynotisay · M
I'm not putting this one on Manfred. Other than him bending to the whines that the game is too slow. It's baseball. But this is a seriously convoluted rule that is going to slow the game down every more. I can smell challenges and game stops all over this.
The only rule change I see that I like is getting rid of the shift. Screw data. Potentially taking umpires out with computers to call balls and strikes is a disaster for the game. And increasing the size of the bases shortens the field. Bang bang plays now will go to the defense.
I can't stand change when it comes to certain things. Because it's change to justify power or a job. Some things need to be left alone. If people don't like it then don't watch or buy it. The game was fine. NO reason to change.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Ynotisay Shift changes are unnecessary as well -- the game will correct itself, as it already has begun to do as you see more and more contact hitters beginning to spray the ball (more action) and more baserunning as the analytics proponents arguing it is giving up outs are seeing that the shift leaves bases open for stealing.

And if you can't blame Manfred, whom can you? He is the one experimenting with all the rule changes for the sake of changes to appease the critics, and the one who ramrodded through the owner-stacked Rules Committee to rubber stamp whatever he wants. I see the committee was unanimous -- including the minority of players and umps -- on implementing the base size change, but the players pushed back on the clock and shift changes but the owners' have a built in majority so it is only for show anyway. When the players' negotiating committee agreed to put this lop-sided committee into the tentative settlement I don't think they expected the tentative settlement to ever be approved. The players' negotiating committee reportedly was unanimously against the settlement and recommended a no vote, but was over ruled by the rank-and-file players.
exexec · 61-69, C
I helped coach a ladies' softball team years ago. None of the ladies/girls had ever played organized ball, so when the umpire called an infield fly, both teams argued with him, even the one that benefited. I enjoyed the discussion. The ump was a retired minor league umpire, but he finally agreed to suspend the infield fly rule for the duration of the season.
As to the new rules, I'm for anything to speed up the game, such as banning batting gloves, which I didn't have when I played college ball. Why do they adjust them after every pitch?
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@exexec As for the infield fly rule, I've always thought it relatively simple until the other day when I saw a major league ump call it on a little looping squib that was never more than shoulder high, which the shortstop took a step back to let drop in front of him to go for the DP. My understanding of the infield fly rule says it has to be a pop up on the infield and clearly easy to catch. This was no pop up, although, granted, imminently catchable. I was amazed there was no argument.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@exexec Heard another explanation on batting gloves that sort of makes weird sense. Stephen Vogt, who just retired, never wore batting gloves but insisted on "old-fashioned" ash bats. He said he could feel the balance and barrel with ash bats bare-handed (but not with gloves). He also said you had to wear gloves to get a sibilance of the same feel with maple bats, but for him it still wasn't the same; they were just too hard and brittle.
exexec · 61-69, C
@dancingtongue I never used a maple bat or a metal bat. Even in college, we used ash bats, but I'm old.
I hate that there's a new set of rules every year.
Manfred is obviously lost in this job. Baseball is having a great year. Now it just needs some real leadership.
Slade · 56-60, M
@robingoodfellow it was such poetic justice that he had to hand the trophy to Atlanta last year after taking the AllStar game away from them for woke, lame virtue signaling.

ALMOST as satisfying as watching Roger Goodell hand the Lombardi to Brady after 2 years of hassling, and ultimately suspending him, for bullshit
Slade · 56-60, M
I have a friend who was an attorney in MLB Commisioner's Office for 2 decades. Worked mostly under Selig.

He only lasted a few weeks with Manfred. Abruptly retired - gave no notice. I still have to talk with him and get the down low
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Slade Well, the Used Car Salesman Selig wasn't any better -- particularly if you rooted for the Oakland A's. He repeatedly screwed the A's on ownership groups and ballpark plans.
Slade · 56-60, M
@dancingtongue Yes but he didn't take the game to wiffle ball territory.

7 inning games
Extra innings starting with 2 runners on base🤮

Seems like a micromanaging douche all the way
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Slade Actually, only one runner on base in extra innings and that particular change I have to admit I like for the regular season. But understand the opposition to it, and otherwise agree about wiffle ball territory. Very appropriate metaphor given that even the bases are changing; why not make it that rock over there, that tree, and let's see. . .
Lackwittyname · 51-55, M
Complicated yes, but if it can speed up the game all the better, way tooo slow right now. Manfred sucks.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@LackwittynameI agree that the game has become way too slow, but I don't think all the arguing over such Byzantine detail will speed up anything; and, it still leaves enforcement to the umpire. There already were rules on the books about calling balls & strikes on slow pitchers/hitters, without all the added detail, and the umps weren't calling it.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Try understanding golf rules

 
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