BnBSpringer09 · 26-30, F
My main concerns have always been that it will be used for very bad things, like creating very realistic looking fake images and videos meant to blackmail/otherwise create controversy for people (we already have this happening with deepfake porn), making very realistic sounding scam phone calls pretending to be a trusted person (someone has told me about a case of this already happening, but thankfully the person was not scammed, as they called the trusted person's real number to verify and found the call they received was a scam), etc. I definitely think technology can become too advanced for society's own good.
There are also already apps for AI friends/romantic partners, which IMO doesn't seem healthy at all. We already have enough other things trying to "replace" in-person interaction with real people, with technology and convenience, and the collective state of society's mental health is showing how we're paying the price for that. Everything being done from home (working, shopping, having restaurant food delivered rather than going out to eat, etc.), a lack of "third places" (malls going away, other options being too expensive to hang out at regularly, etc.), social media dominating social interaction, and now people turning to computerized "personalities" for companionship is all leading to an unhealthily isolated society, and people wonder why there are so many issues with anxiety and depression, and especially crippling social anxiety. I personally don't think the way society is headed with this stuff is in any way healthy at all, and I find it very concerning how many people talk about how much they hate leaving the house and avoid it at all costs, not to mention the amount of people who are so addicted to their phones and social media that they can't put them down when they're out in public and it isn't uncommon to see tables of families at dinner all on their phones, not saying a word to each other the entire time. I've known people over the years in real life who self-isolated (leaving the house as little as possible, interacting with as few people as possible), and this lifestyle seems to cause a massive downward spiral in people's mental health, and creates a situation that is very hard to get out of. It's like society is turning people into zombies and everyone's somehow completely okay with it.
Sorry for getting slightly off topic and ranting, but this is something I've found concerning for awhile and it seems like most are either oblivious to it or just don't care, and it's a scary thing to me. I can only imagine AI will exacerbate the issue, though that isn't to say that some good things can't come from it as well.
There are also already apps for AI friends/romantic partners, which IMO doesn't seem healthy at all. We already have enough other things trying to "replace" in-person interaction with real people, with technology and convenience, and the collective state of society's mental health is showing how we're paying the price for that. Everything being done from home (working, shopping, having restaurant food delivered rather than going out to eat, etc.), a lack of "third places" (malls going away, other options being too expensive to hang out at regularly, etc.), social media dominating social interaction, and now people turning to computerized "personalities" for companionship is all leading to an unhealthily isolated society, and people wonder why there are so many issues with anxiety and depression, and especially crippling social anxiety. I personally don't think the way society is headed with this stuff is in any way healthy at all, and I find it very concerning how many people talk about how much they hate leaving the house and avoid it at all costs, not to mention the amount of people who are so addicted to their phones and social media that they can't put them down when they're out in public and it isn't uncommon to see tables of families at dinner all on their phones, not saying a word to each other the entire time. I've known people over the years in real life who self-isolated (leaving the house as little as possible, interacting with as few people as possible), and this lifestyle seems to cause a massive downward spiral in people's mental health, and creates a situation that is very hard to get out of. It's like society is turning people into zombies and everyone's somehow completely okay with it.
Sorry for getting slightly off topic and ranting, but this is something I've found concerning for awhile and it seems like most are either oblivious to it or just don't care, and it's a scary thing to me. I can only imagine AI will exacerbate the issue, though that isn't to say that some good things can't come from it as well.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
It should be banned.
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uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@MsSwan sorry but that's not how the world works, and that's the mentality people had for every other disruptive technology; the only way AI will ever get wiped out is with a G5 solar flare or enough nukes to send humanity back to the medieval times.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@MsSwan It won't work; it's as if you proposed to make nukes illegal in the 1940s; they would've still been researched and ultimately deployed somewhere.
Suppose you make "AI" illegal in Europe + USA, research will continue in non-western countries (China in primis), and eventually the only practical difference is that the countries that didn't involve themselves with the ban will have a massive technological advantage over those that did.
Suppose you make "AI" illegal in Europe + USA, research will continue in non-western countries (China in primis), and eventually the only practical difference is that the countries that didn't involve themselves with the ban will have a massive technological advantage over those that did.
@uikakarotuevegeta @Elessar I know, it's just scary because it's unknown.
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calicuz · 56-60, M
I trust AI, but only to the point until it reaches it's own consciousness, then it WILL determine that humans are "the problem," and we need to be eliminated. It won't be wrong in determining that, I mean, just look at us. 🤷♂️
uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@calicuz which is why Musk is embracing transhumanism; AI can't destroy us if we're part of them
Elessar · 26-30, M
@calicuz
We're the modern era version of the 1960s people who looked at the moon landing and probably thought "at this pace, by the end of the century (1999) we'll have colonized the entire solar system!"
@uikakarotuevegeta Musk doesn't even know what he speaks of most of the time he opens his mouth lol.
See his bullshìt statements on the early days of Twitter acquisition, easily disprovable by anyone capable of hitting the "F12" key on their keyboard, switching to the "Network" tab and realizing that you wouldn't get (and I cite) ">1000 poorly batched RPCs" in the list lol
until it reaches it's own consciousness
Could be tomorrow or could be never. Right now I'm more inclined towards "won't happen anytime soon". Developing actual sentience is a whole different story than developing a fairly accurate predictive model that is somewhat good at pretending sentience. We're the modern era version of the 1960s people who looked at the moon landing and probably thought "at this pace, by the end of the century (1999) we'll have colonized the entire solar system!"
@uikakarotuevegeta Musk doesn't even know what he speaks of most of the time he opens his mouth lol.
See his bullshìt statements on the early days of Twitter acquisition, easily disprovable by anyone capable of hitting the "F12" key on their keyboard, switching to the "Network" tab and realizing that you wouldn't get (and I cite) ">1000 poorly batched RPCs" in the list lol
I have mixed feelings regarding trusting it, considering it's likely to copy and even escalate biases in its training data, but can also take a whole lot more information into account than humans who often have the same biases anyway so it could be very useful too.
My concerns are mostly about what humans are going to use it for. We've already seen it used for blackmail and political division, and that's probably only the tip of the iceberg.
My concerns are mostly about what humans are going to use it for. We've already seen it used for blackmail and political division, and that's probably only the tip of the iceberg.
@uikakarotuevegeta ChatGPT is riddled with racism, ableism, misogyny, etc. I wouldn't call that woke.
uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@NerdyPotato race isn't real, being critical of women and disabled isn't discrimination, and AI lacks sentience
Elessar · 26-30, M
@uikakarotuevegeta It just spits out what it was "trained" with, it has no political will of its own, no understanding of "good" or "bad", or "left" or "right"; and the "creator" is a conglomerate of corporations that certainly couldn't care less about "wokeism", it just fed it pretty much whatever could be scraped off the internet to "train" on lol
Asserting that AI is woke is pretty much like asserting that science or reality have a leftwing bias
Asserting that AI is woke is pretty much like asserting that science or reality have a leftwing bias
Elessar · 26-30, M
I've the understanding that it's just a glorified but still purely deterministic algorithm. There's no such thing as "artificial intelligence" in 2024. I trust it no more and no less than I trust any other algorithms: it does exactly what it's programmed to do. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's this decade's "blockchain", or maybe more fitting, today's space race; now it's the hot topic, and corporations are trying to fit it everywhere because it sells; in a few years nobody will give a f*ck about it because it becomes part of established normality and everyone will be losing their minds over something else.
It's this decade's "blockchain", or maybe more fitting, today's space race; now it's the hot topic, and corporations are trying to fit it everywhere because it sells; in a few years nobody will give a f*ck about it because it becomes part of established normality and everyone will be losing their minds over something else.
uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@Elessar that's an extremely simplified and inaccurate way of defining AI; the key word is artificial, not intelligence. And AI has been around since the beginning of the Cold War, but only really took off over a decade ago when the hardware and software was advanced enough. In a few years nobody may care about generative AI anymore as that definitely is a fad, but AI is here to stay just like the internet, video games, telephone, electricity, and automobiles.
BizSuitStacy · M
Too easy to use for nefarious purposes, and could actually get beyond the control of humans.
Degbeme · 70-79, M
None and a lot of concerns.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
It has already been misused to accuse an administer of wrong doing
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@Ambroseguy80 you don't use a search engine for your web searches then? Because without prioritization of results, which is AI, it would be fairly useless.
BnBSpringer09 · 26-30, F
@Ambroseguy80 It seems like the trend towards convenience is pushing society to become lazier and lazier. I agree, why would I need AI to do a web search for me when I can do it myself, and probably get more results?
Ambroseguy80 · 56-60, M
@BnBSpringer09 exactly.
Bleak · 36-40, F
AI never disappoints me.
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uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@therighttothink50 is everything beyond your control demonic and evil?
FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
1....only use it for language and nothing else. I don't trust anything with AI besides language
uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@FreestyleArt then unfortunately you're gonna only get left behind and be replaced if you don't adapt
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robertsnj · 56-60, M
i mean it is just software. There is nothing to trust or untrust. It is more about who is using it, to do what and why. that is a case by case idea and can't be painted with a broad brush.
The biggest worry I have is that in the USA our legistlative branch in the USA is full of old useless dorks who dont' really understand the internet much less something like AI.
It is something that could and should be legistlated by the techno-idiots that make up our congress and senate are't capable of that.
The biggest worry I have is that in the USA our legistlative branch in the USA is full of old useless dorks who dont' really understand the internet much less something like AI.
It is something that could and should be legistlated by the techno-idiots that make up our congress and senate are't capable of that.
robertsnj · 56-60, M
@uikakarotuevegeta I did not know the iphone was made by alphabet either . It is more that we many super old -super dumb technology illiterate folks in our legislative branch that the tech companies can kinda do what they want if they put the right spin on it.
yeah the permission piece is important and one day some of the tech giants will use lobby groups to push the idea of soft compliance through where if you download the app you gave compliance by donwloading it.
sometimes ai is a pain, like when it uses predictive text on an email or browser search but you are right it can be disabled.
yeah the permission piece is important and one day some of the tech giants will use lobby groups to push the idea of soft compliance through where if you download the app you gave compliance by donwloading it.
sometimes ai is a pain, like when it uses predictive text on an email or browser search but you are right it can be disabled.
uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30
@robertsnj iPhone is made by Apple 🧐
robertsnj · 56-60, M
@uikakarotuevegeta opps sorry misread your statement / that makes more sense / by apple
DDonde · 31-35, M
I don't trust it at all, but it is very useful.
I predict that its development at this point is both unstoppable, a pandora's box, and that it will change the next generation's life in no less dramatic a way than how the internet and the cell phone changed the milllenial's life.
I predict that its development at this point is both unstoppable, a pandora's box, and that it will change the next generation's life in no less dramatic a way than how the internet and the cell phone changed the milllenial's life.
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