Not Believing in God, but Not Liking the Atheist Label

That, to me, is how I interpret the message within the image above. Whilst it's technically true that atheism is nothing more than a denial of God, in real life it always entails much more than just this simple dictionary definition of the term. Is it nothing more than a mere coincidence that most atheists (note: [b]most[/b], not all) also support far-Left social causes like feminism and abortion? Is it merely coincidental that they also tend to believe our reality has no ultimate meaning, and that morality is relative and subjective?

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sascha · F

Atheists very much believe in morality, except it is not given by God. Moral realism, if they are to avoid self-defeat by the idea that "morality is relative and subjective", is what they should advocate.

Of course, it does not explain how, and why, we are affected by harm. However, when you can demonstrate that (to use an example) stabbing someone causes pain, blood loss and possibly death, they can avoid the why and how in their attempt to show that religion is not necessary to be moral or exercise restraint.

sunriselover · M

@sascha How you explain how morality developed is a curious one. I know nothing of anthropology.

I gather morality is now developed by using social media and pressing like. Hence woke.

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@sunriselover [quote]How you explain how morality developed is a curious one. I know nothing of anthropology.[/quote]
Morality, as we refer to it, began as a set of agreed upon rules when the earliest humans began forming communities for the sake of defending themselves against large predators. It was in the best interests of the members of such small bands of humans not to kill one another or steal from each other.
[quote]I gather morality is now developed by using social media and pressing like. Hence woke.[/quote]
And what do you think woke [i]is[/i]? It sounds to me as though you are using an erroneous definition force-fed to you by those whom you admire, rather than thinking for yourself.

FormerAtheist · 26-30

@CorvusBlackthorne [quote]And what do you think woke is? It sounds to me as though you are using an erroneous definition force-fed to you by those whom you admire, rather than thinking for yourself.[/quote]
'Woke' (or 'wokeness') as I understand it, is the grossly disproportionate consideration given to the "feelings" of others, and placing those feelings above all else, at the expense of truth, integrity and honesty. It means catering to the worst in people, their narcissism, and reinforcing destructive habits (like over-eating - "fat acceptance") in those people.

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@FormerAtheist Wrong.

woke
adjective
[i]ˈwōk[/i]
woker; wokest

[i]chiefly US slang[/i]
1
a
: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
b
: reflecting the attitudes of woke people
woke values/language
2
disapproving : politically liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme

Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke

sascha · F

@sunriselover [quote]How you explain how morality developed is a curious one. I know nothing of anthropology.
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It comes from pain. What isn't known is how or why pain, and its opposite, were conceived. We did not conceive them.