This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
1-25 of 56
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
Mistakesmakeus · M
@Emosaur no one would but the problem is sufficient evidence outside of "i swear hes real you just gotta believe" or "read this book it tells the stories of people who swear they seen him"
@Richard65 Calm your knickers kid 😂
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
Mistakesmakeus · M
@Emosaur no, no he is not BUT you just proved a point. God mightve saved some people but also had a hand in wiping out the entirety of life on earth once, causing language barriers because he didnt want humans to reach heaven under their own volition, bet with satan on a humans determination on his belief of god, "resurrected" his own son even though thats a big no no, committed mass genocide at almost every turn, and people still say hes good and perfect
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
Mistakesmakeus · M
@Emosaur it hypothetically CAN exist but theres no sufficient evidence outside of eyewitness testimony jotted down decades after their deaths
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
AkioTsukino · M
@Pikachu [quote]I'm not really a hateful person even of real people but i would be comfortable calling the god of the bible a villain if it were real.[/quote]
Why? Whether he is real or fictional why is it that you think he is or is presented as a villain?
Why? Whether he is real or fictional why is it that you think he is or is presented as a villain?
AkioTsukino · M
@Ozymandiaz [quote]Why do you hate God? 😬[/quote]
@Mistakesmakeus [quote]no one would but the problem is sufficient evidence outside of "i swear hes real you just gotta believe" or "read this book it tells the stories of people who swear they seen him"[/quote]
1. Many people and spirit beings believe or know God Jehovah is real and hate him. Many people that don't believe he exists hate him as he is presented. Hate the concept. And many others just ideologically hate the sociopolitical ramifications of his alleged existence.
2. Don't make a decision about God if you don't want to. If you are curious, take what people believe, including myself and the writers of the Bible, with a grain of salt. The Bible itself advises this. Not to believe even the inspired word, to always test the Bible. Most importantly don't believe anything a so called adherent to Judaism or Christianity says. They have both been corrupted by pagan influence.
@Mistakesmakeus [quote]no one would but the problem is sufficient evidence outside of "i swear hes real you just gotta believe" or "read this book it tells the stories of people who swear they seen him"[/quote]
1. Many people and spirit beings believe or know God Jehovah is real and hate him. Many people that don't believe he exists hate him as he is presented. Hate the concept. And many others just ideologically hate the sociopolitical ramifications of his alleged existence.
2. Don't make a decision about God if you don't want to. If you are curious, take what people believe, including myself and the writers of the Bible, with a grain of salt. The Bible itself advises this. Not to believe even the inspired word, to always test the Bible. Most importantly don't believe anything a so called adherent to Judaism or Christianity says. They have both been corrupted by pagan influence.
@AkioTsukino It is all fake
AkioTsukino · M
@Ozymandiaz So? You think it's all fake. I'm Nico, I'm bowling with my cousin Roman. I suck at bowling. I should have picked darts. I'm real good at darts. All of that is fake, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV
Most of what you hear about gods is fake, and yet it isn't fake. In a lot of ways. But, like I said, if you're not interested don't bother. Your call.
Most of what you hear about gods is fake, and yet it isn't fake. In a lot of ways. But, like I said, if you're not interested don't bother. Your call.
@AkioTsukino It is all a stupid bronze age fairytale. I have looked into it at length, have you?
Mistakesmakeus · M
@AkioTsukino so.. everything you just said right now is to contradict everything you also said in the same comment? So god does exist but also doesnt exist, to believe you but not to believe you at the same time. So its an absolute but also not an absolute? The bible tells true stories but dont believe those stories because theyre not true? To believe in god but he does and doesn't exist while also clearing up that stories written about him from a book meant to be a holy relic that explains EVERYTHING about god shouldnt be taken to heart because its all lies?
AkioTsukino · M
@Mistakesmakeus No. You've got it all wrong. Nothing I said is a contradiction. A god is anything or anyone who is venerated. Zeus, Kim Jong-un, from the Bible, the Sumerian king Tammuz. Moses was called God in the Bible. There are countless gods. Some gods exist, some don't. Amaterasu, for example, is a goddess invented by the Shintoist to instruct youth.
the Bible gives true accounts but it also gives allegories, and it also says things that are false when giving the incorrect or deceptive perspective of another. Eve was tricked into thinking the serpent spoke. It didn't. Balaam was tricked by an angel into thinking his donkey talked. It didn't. The angels guarding Eden after Adam was expelled didn't have swords or blades because they hadn't been invented yet, so they just used the term to describe something like it so it could be understood. The spies sent out to spy on the land only said the Nephilim were there because they were afraid to fight. Jesus only made holes in himself so Thomas would believe.
You have to know when the Bible is telling the truth and when it isn't.
Again. The Bible itself advises to not believe the inspired expression, but test it. Not to believe me, but test what I'm saying. Not to believe Bible dictionaries, encyclopedias, theologians. Always test.
the Bible gives true accounts but it also gives allegories, and it also says things that are false when giving the incorrect or deceptive perspective of another. Eve was tricked into thinking the serpent spoke. It didn't. Balaam was tricked by an angel into thinking his donkey talked. It didn't. The angels guarding Eden after Adam was expelled didn't have swords or blades because they hadn't been invented yet, so they just used the term to describe something like it so it could be understood. The spies sent out to spy on the land only said the Nephilim were there because they were afraid to fight. Jesus only made holes in himself so Thomas would believe.
You have to know when the Bible is telling the truth and when it isn't.
Again. The Bible itself advises to not believe the inspired expression, but test it. Not to believe me, but test what I'm saying. Not to believe Bible dictionaries, encyclopedias, theologians. Always test.
@AkioTsukino
[quote]Why? Whether he is real or fictional why is it that you think he is or is presented as a villain?[/quote]
I don't think he is presented as the villain at all. He's presented as righteous and just.
But many of the actual acts assigned to the god of the bible are unequivocally villainous.
Murdering the entire world because they didn't turn out the way you wanted them is villainous.
It literally does not matter how one attempts to justify that act. You will never see in any literature or film a "good guy" deciding to kill every man, woman and child on the planet and not be considered a villain.
This is obvious in literally every other context.
Only special pleading allows some to exclude the god of the Bible from appropriately being called a villain.
That's one obvious example.
[quote]Why? Whether he is real or fictional why is it that you think he is or is presented as a villain?[/quote]
I don't think he is presented as the villain at all. He's presented as righteous and just.
But many of the actual acts assigned to the god of the bible are unequivocally villainous.
Murdering the entire world because they didn't turn out the way you wanted them is villainous.
It literally does not matter how one attempts to justify that act. You will never see in any literature or film a "good guy" deciding to kill every man, woman and child on the planet and not be considered a villain.
This is obvious in literally every other context.
Only special pleading allows some to exclude the god of the Bible from appropriately being called a villain.
That's one obvious example.
AkioTsukino · M
@Pikachu Do you see that account as God just being mad at man, tired of their behavior and so he destroys them? What do you see as his motivation?
Let's say you were a farmer with a large flock of sheep who have a contagious disease that makes them lose their minds and become very aggressive. You see this disease decimate your large flock and you know that if you don't do something the entire flock will be lost. So you take a few of the sheep who haven't displayed any symptoms of the infection and you separate those from the flock and destroy the rest in order to preserve them. Is that villainous?
Let's say you were a farmer with a large flock of sheep who have a contagious disease that makes them lose their minds and become very aggressive. You see this disease decimate your large flock and you know that if you don't do something the entire flock will be lost. So you take a few of the sheep who haven't displayed any symptoms of the infection and you separate those from the flock and destroy the rest in order to preserve them. Is that villainous?
1-25 of 56