Hi everyone in particular atheists, read the following exchange between me Yrger the theist, and Kwk00, as follows:
yrger · 80-89, M
@Kwek00
You tell me, " ... you just accept that God did it all."
You are wrong, I think rationally and thus intelligently and arrive at the fact and the truth that God exists, as the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.
Here, let you and me think rationally and intelligently:
1. Scientists tell us the universe has a beginning, so it needs a creator to get to exist. Do you accept that the universe according to scientists have a beginning?
(We will continue if you accept, otherwise you tell me that the universe is always existing, in which case you have to bring forth scientists who maintain that the universe has always been existing.)
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Kwek00 · 36-40, M
@yrger No... it didn't come from nothingness, I don't think anyone disagrees with that. And if they do, I would love to meet them and ask what their rational is.
I agree we have a mysterie here... so, if this fascinates you (or anyone else), what you should be doing is trying to figure it out and try to find the answer to your question. But you don't, you just accept that God did it all. I don't know why you do it? Could be because you were raised that way or lived in a culture where this idea is really prominent and not challenged in anyway. Could be you are lazy and don't want to do the leggwork and thus just invent an answer that you demand that other people try to proof to be false. Could be your ego just doesn't let you live with an unanswered question. What ever it is, it's not smart.
I don't mind, everyone may read our exchange. The sharper you are, the more I welcome it.
