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C S Lewis on atheism

“Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”

C. S. Lewis
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ElRengo · 70-79, M
I´m not atheist.
Even so I don´t have the need nor feel tempted at all to find pseudo scientific / "rational"-like arguments to support my faith.
All of those approaches are something between weak ones (better case) to have lack of intellectual honesty.

Within said extremes they are populated by fallacies and "poetic" analogies.
In the posted quote we may find:

- Equating intrinsic causality without a priory agency with absence of "meaning". That entails a specific definition of "meaning" that is far to be a necessary one.
It´s like equating non guided laws of nature with randomness and causation with supernatural purpose. Merely speculative if not just ignorance,

- Another one is a garden varity of the more elaborated but no less circular "fine tunning" stuff.
The "if ...we should never" is dressed as a counterfactual. And counterfactuals are only conjectural objections to some explanation (that may be as badly formulated as creationist use of probabilities) but are not a foundation for any other particular explanation.
A "logical need" is not factual evidence.

- The third one is in the analogy.
I wouln´t ask C. S. Lewis to have even a moderate knowledge of Theory of Information (and the proposed metaphor falls in that domain).
But specifying certain unmet conditions to be able to "kow" can´t prove that whatever is not known is evident.
Moreover, things don´t need to be known / perceived to become / be like they are.

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Mathers · 61-69
Sorry but if you learn to write English it might be better understood@ElRengo
rob19 · M
@Mathers Not everyone has English as a first language. I doubt you can write his first language as well as he writes English.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Mathers
English is not my first language and not the one spoken where I am from, you are right about.
Even so your obstacles to understand my assertions are not linguistic ones.
Even considering my poor English, the concepts are intelligible for most of the ones with a moderate knowledge of Science and math rooted logic.
So if you learn to read with the above said tools you may perhaps understand a bit better.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ElRengo I don't think he can. He prefers to resort to childish insults.
Mathers · 61-69
Sorry if I offend but I’m afraid you’re arguments don’t make sense @ElRengo
Mathers · 61-69
As I say you are so boring and predictable@LordShadowfire
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Mathers
"Sorry if I offend"
Don´t worry, your words have not enough weight to becom offensive,

"...but I’m afraid you’re arguments don’t make sense"
Of course.
May be if you educate yourself they may become inteligible to you at least to disagree with some serious foundation.
Mathers · 61-69
It is difficult to disagree with arguments that do not make sense@ElRengo
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Mathers
You give us a quite good description of yours, it´s commendable
Mathers · 61-69
Thanks@ElRengo
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@Mathers You are welcome