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C S Lewis on atheism

“Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”

C. S. Lewis
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@Mathers The ten commandments epitomize the childishness, the vindictiveness, the sexism, the inflexibility and the inadequacies of the bible as a book of morals.
Only six of the ten commandments deal with an individual's moral conduct. The first four commandments all scream that "the lord thy god" has an uneasy vanity, and like most dictators, must resort to threats, rather than intellectual persuasion, to promote a point of view.

Honor thy father and thy mother" is the fifth commandment, and it is, of course, an extension of the authoritarian rationale behind the first four. Honor cannot be bestowed automatically by an honest intellect. Intellectually honest people can honor only those who, in their opinion, warrant their honor. The biologic fact of fatherhood and motherhood does not in and of itself warrant honor.

Commandments six through nine—thou shalt not kill, commit adultery, steal or bear false witness—obviously have merit, but even they need extensive revision. To kill in self-defense is regrettable, but it is certainly morally defensible. So is the administration of a shot or medication that will end life for the terminally ill patient who wishes to die.

Reflect for a moment that probably anyone could write a wiser, kinder, more inclusive and more reasonable set of commandments than Christians like you insist we honor.
Mathers · 61-69
So if everyone obeyed the 10 Commandments the world would be a worse place?@PrincessOfHell
rob19 · M
@PrincessOfHell
and like most dictators, must resort to threats, rather than intellectual persuasion, to promote a point of view.
A strategy readily adopted by christian evangelists.
Mathers · 61-69
As Marxists atheists murdered 100 million people in the last century it was probably better understood by them@rob19
@Mathers Obeying the first four yes. The others are good but have no nuance to them also they are not explicit to Christianity.
Sharon · F
Mathers · 61-69
Oh dear! As Chesterton says atheists believe anything @Sharon
@Mathers Native American Cultural Cleansing, the crusades, the Inquisition, Bosnian Genocide, Witch Trials, .... there is a long list of historical violent acts either committed by Christians in the name of their God or influenced by it.
Sharon · F
@Mathers You're just displaying your ignorance again.
@PrincessOfHell Not to mention, omitting commandments against rape, slavery, genocide, and child abuse.
Mathers · 61-69
Where are these in the teachings of Jesus? @PrincessOfHell
What about the commandments listed in Exodus 34:28 and Deuteronomy 4:13? The final authorized, edited, proofed, put on stone version of the Ten Commandments? Why doesn’t that get attention?
@Mathers What a disingenuous way to argue. Accroding to that logic Marx can't be held responsible for Stalins deeds either after all in his writings he doesn't call for murder or prison camps.
Christianity is no religion of peace and to this day exploits people and causes harm. Not nearly as bad as back then but still.
Do you deny that these historic events happened and Christianitys influence on them?
Mathers · 61-69
The Torah given to the theocracy of Israel does not apply to the church today for Christians. See rather Matthew 5-7 @BlueSkyKing
Mathers · 61-69
@PrincessOfHell everywhere Marx’s disciples have established his teachings there has been bloodshed and murder
@Mathers I never denied that but similar goes for Christianity. You deny these historic events happened?
Mathers · 61-69
I deny that disciples of Jesus did them. You can hardly deny Lenin was not a disciple of Marx@PrincessOfHell
@Mathers No and neither can you deny that they were Christians. Just because it doesn't fit into your personal perception of a true Christian and your personal belief doesn't make it wrong.
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Mathers · 61-69
Only if you have a narrow materialistic worldview. @Honko
TheWildEcho · 61-69, M
@PrincessOfHell your problem is you don't understand the 10 commandments, the first four are about our relationship with God, the other six are about our relationships with people, get the first four right and the others will fall into place, just imagine a world without murder, adultery and greed!!
Ynotisay · M
@Mathers Just imagine if it wasn't "Christians" behind the murder, adultery and greed. That's a better question, don't you think? You missed her point. Which isn't surprising. She's clearly sharp. That's what tends to happen.
Mathers · 61-69
Disciples of the Messiah obey the commands of Jesus. I don’t believe you will find murder, adultery and greed among them. @Ynotisay