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There is no ‘divine plan’

Imagine the millions of small fish in the seas that are devoured every day by larger fish. Oceans are vast killing zones. Churches proclaim that God created all living things as part of a divine plan. Why did he design a slaughterhouse?

Mark Twain wrote, in Letters from the Earth:

“The spider kills the fly, and eats it; the bird kills the spider, and eats it; the wildcat kills the goose; the — well, they all kill each other. It is murder all along the line. Here are countless multitudes of creatures, and they all kill, kill, kill, they are all murderers.”

What sort of divine plan is that?

Charles Templeton, a Canadian evangelist who lost his faith, wrote in Farewell to God:

“Every carnivorous creature must kill and devour another creature. It has no option. Why does God’s grand design require creatures with teeth designed to crush spines or rend flesh, claws fashioned to seize and tear, venom to paralyze, mouths to suck blood, coils to constrict and smother — even expandable jaws so that prey may be swallowed whole and alive? Nature is, in Tennyson’s vivid phrase, ‘red in tooth and claw,’ and life is a carnival of blood. How could a loving and omnipotent god create such horrors?”

Charles Darwin was horrified by an insect that displays extreme treachery. Professor Warren Allmon, director of the Paleontological Research Institution, has written in an essay about Darwin:

“Ichneumons are an extraordinarily diverse group of parasitic wasps (there are at least 25,000 described species, which may be only a quarter of their true diversity). Female ichneumons lay their eggs on or in a living host, usually an insect or spider. When the larvae hatch, they begin to feed on the host, frequently eating it in such a way as to allow it to remain alive for as long as possible, permitting the larvae to complete their development. The host is literally eaten alive. How could such a horrific phenomenon be the product of a benevolent god?”

Darwin himself wrote in an 1860 letter to American botanist Asa Gray:

“I cannot see as plainly as others do … evidence of design and beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent god would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice.”

Nature simply exists, grabbing every opportunity to eat and survive. Even though we eat agricultural animals, humans are much kinder than the dog-eat-dog reality surrounding us.

There is no divine plan — and no divine creator.

Freeethoughnow.org

James A. Haught, syndicated by PeaceVoice, was the longtime editor at the Charleston Gazette and has been the editor emeritus since 2015. He has won two dozen national newswriting awards and is author of 12 books and 150 magazine essays. He also is a senior editor of Free Inquiry magazine and was writer-in-residence for the United Coalition of Reason.
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Freeranger · M
His ways are not your ways......what mankind promotes as intelligence God sees as foolishness. You are given free will to believe whatever you will. You are left to your endeavor. One day, there will be a reckoning of mankind.
Either your belief or lack thereof, is like a gambler tossing the last of the money in his pocket against the dice. You win or.....you lose. "If," God is not real, then those who have followed his precepts in life have lost nothing, and have followed a good life. On the flip side of that coin lies a reality.....the side that states God exists the unbeliever is condemned, and the believer experiences marvelous things beyond his comprehension.
That side of the coin is very black and white, based on "free choice" extended to all of mankind. You either believe in Him or....you don't. If the side of the coin that comes up in your hand is Heads....your disbelief actually is your loss.....God being real (and I fully and personally believe that He is).
Hell then, is not a metaphor for something else but a very real entity where, unbelievers are sent once they stand before Him because good, bad, or indifferent, we will all stand before Him one day.
It is far easier to deny that God exists because to accept the premise that God is real, means that the whole enchilada of good and evil, heaven and hell are very real.....and certainly the why that knots of people find it easier to deny his existence. Hell doesn't sound very nice if you ask me......an eternity of suffering? No thank you.....but....that's just for believers right? Riiiight.
And so, ultimately, in the end, we lie in the beds we make for ourselves....and like the guy who flips the coin and chooses, what's played is layed the day we pass from this earth, and each man has his own date with time.
In all fairness, you see, you/we executed a choice. We all do. Therefore, as a believer, your eternity is secure, and a polar opposite to the alternative will mean an eternity of suffering.
You get to choose. I'd call that fair. Be prepared to live with your choice and please don't whine...either here or when you close your eyes in finality.
So, to me.....roll your dice. Believe and feel that sense of eternal security or......sew the wind and reap yer own whirlwind.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Freeranger Why do you believe in an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairytale that denies you unless you are a Jew?
https://thebricktestament.com/the_law/racial%20tolerance/dt23_03a.html
Freeranger · M
@Diotrephes The deeper question apparently is your abject fear of the reality of your end of life. That you have chosen Diotrophes as your shingle matters little. Your audience here I suspect, whom you attempt to dazzle with laptop knowledge is to be considered pretty small potatoes, at least by the standards of Diotrephes. You should leave here of course, take that show on the road and become a much bigger fish elsewhere some time in the future perhaps.
Here.....well, it becomes purely a game of constant one upsmanship doesn't it?

And yet, some people have that little unhappy hunger within themselves that never let them rest. Mores the pity.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Freeranger So, why do you believe in that specific fairytale when it plainly says that it doesn't give a damn about you?
Freeranger · M
@Diotrephes Why do you care? Actually......it's a rhetorical question. You don't care, you're simply like the freestyle mountain climber looking for their next toehold.
I'll answer you with this. It's one you should recognize. You are welcome to your own opinion, just not your own facts...

We can continue this tennis match of course or, you might try to find a weaker vessel.