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Is there really a God? Conversation, Muslim vs Athiest.

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@hippyjoe1955 You know, if you would subtract derogatory remarks and name-calling from your message to others, you would make a great minister and i would support you all the way.
There is a God and it's the God of the Bible
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MuslimBarbie That Paul did not create something new. He understood the Trinity as being a basic concept in Judaism.
@hippyjoe1955 but jews don't believe truly in that concept themselves.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MuslimBarbie Many do believe it. The Old Covenant is full of promises of the coming Messiah who was thought to be Fully God.
"There are, after all, atheists who say they wish the fable were true but are unable to suspend the requisite disbelief, or who have relinquished belief only with regret. To this I reply: who wishes that there was a permanent, unalterable celestial despotism that subjected us to continual surveillance and could convict us of thought-crime, and who regarded us as its private property even after we died? How happy we ought to be, at the reflection that there exists not a shred of respectable evidence to support such a horrible hypothesis.”
― Christopher Hitchens, The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueSkyKing Hitchens had no idea what he was talking about. Sad to say. His brother Peter has a much clearer understanding though. The fact is that Yahweh is not in the business of condemning people to hell. He is in the business of saving people from themselves. His objective is to rescue His fallen creation and did just that by the death and resurrection of His Son. Atheists aren't very bright individuals so they have to be excused for their ignorance. They share that trait with muslims. Just not very bright at all.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
God is a term not a person. God can be anything you worship or believe will save you. Money, Fame, etc can all be your god. Muslims have a stupid name for their idol. They call it 'the god'. Well the god is a cute way around the issue that they are worshiping an idol. An idol is anything worshiped that is not capable of saving.

Jews and Christians worship a God called Yahweh. The Name of that God means I AM. Yahweh completely saves His own Creation. 'the god' of islam is a complete joke in comparison.
DocSavage · M
Come on people. Granted that we don’t know what there was the Big Bang. But realistically, a invisible, all powerful magic man, who conjured the whole universe out of nothing .that lives outside time and space, who cares about the day to day lives of everyone on one tiny planet, and sends he’s message to that world , via one, poorly written old book, full of errors. Centered around one group of people, instead of all the races.
Just sounds a bit silly.
@hippyjoe1955 if u just need hints to believe in something then so is Muhammed mentioned in the bible.
How did nature know where to put them ?
....evolution and survival of the fittest?

No one actually knows , and thats the point of belief . You cant argue religious belief against scientific evidence as neither has definite proof , only theories .

 
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